Funny thing about this is that IE and Nevermore have toured together and pretty much every album these two bands do they always thank each other in the linear notes. In the interview, I believe Warrel was laughing about the "power metal" comment. Both bands have said in interviews that they do not like the whole power metal label, because as we all know the term power metal is reserved for the lords of cheesiness, Manowar. Also, you claim that you dislike IE because Schaffer talks smack about other bands. I have read interviews where Warrel does it too. Also, a lot of people are often misquoted or things are taken totally out of context by interviewers. And evry band has to believe that they are the best they can be. I have not actually read Schaffer say that IE is the best there ever was, is, or will be. I enjoy listening to both bands equally. Those are pretty much the only CDs in my truck. Also, I have met most of the guys from IE and all of them were very friendly and accomodating to all their fans. All of them took time for autographs, photos, and answering questions. And out of all the guys, Scaffer seemed the most out going and he was pretty humble about it. One guy said to him "You rule Jon!!" while flying the horns. Schaffer just said "Thanks, but I'm just trying to my best at what I love too do." It is very suprizing to me that someone in the position he is can be very down to earth and friendly. I am sure the Nevermore guys are too, I am just speaking from my experience.