hahahha Thanks, but what about the shit faced piece of FORESKIN, that was funny. And the heroin sperm, i laughed about that as well, get with it neal.
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Nevermore Vs..........iced Earth
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hahahha Thanks, but what about the shit faced piece of FORESKIN, that was funny. And the heroin sperm, i laughed about that as well, get with it neal.
hahahha
neal
wizard in black
damn man, i just named a few to let you know which post i was talking about. yeh the heroin sperm thing was good.
-neal
-neal
Originally posted by Trapped
Ledmag, you never cease to amaze me...
About the original topic... it is quite an interesting debate actually, as the two bands are often lumped in the same category together, even when they are years apart.
Dead Heart in a Dead World and Horrorshow DO have their similarities, and while horrorshow has grown on me quite a bit since i first heard it, Dead Heart doesn't do much for me at all, despite nevermore being one of my favourite bands... I hated Horrorshow when i first got it, it just seemed "Wrong" to have been released by iced earth, but once you get past the juvenile lyrics, and the slightly derivative riffing style, there is some downright COOL stuff on the album...
Dead Heart is interesting... it is a step towards the style of Iced Earth, much more "new-age power metal" than DNB or POE. Simplified riffing, thrashy passages and catchy choruses, cool vocals etc...
Neither band has "stayed the same" over the years... EVERY nevermore album is a different style of metal, "Nevermore" being power metal with a thrash undertone, "In Memory" being a dark, complicated thrash album, "politics (see below)" being a technical and complex thrash progressive 'guitar'-album, "dreaming" being a melancholy, almost doomy thrash/power album, and "Dead Heart" being a new age Power-Metal (tradition power ideas, but with detuned guitars and a groove).
While DHIADW and HS have their similarities, it stops there. Politics of ecstasy is like NOTHING that iced earth, nor any other band have ever done... Iced Earth have never even tried to border on prog, they are basically just an updated version of what Metallica dn Megadeth were doing in the mid/late eighties, around the time of Master of Puppets and Rust in Peace.
Nevermore are far superior musicians (no insult to iced earth, but this is a fact), and "the Politics of ecstasy" is unmatched in terms of guitar and drum playing. I applaude iced earth for not coming of as a second rate "we wanna be better musicians" style band, where they play a style which is out of reach for them, they have never given the illusion of progressive ideas or technicality.
Schaffer isn't a great player at all, but he writes some really cool riffs, but just like pantera, they are like a shotgun, some bullets are right on target, and others are totally leftfield, out of knowhere.
Older iced earth is pretty generic, despite the cool riffs and ideas here and there, burnt offerings, the dark saga and earlier have their shining moments, but aside from a shimmer in the park, there is little solidarity to their music... There are a few awesome songs, like Travel in Stygian, Burnt Offerings etc... but that is where it ends, the albums sound very "hurried" to me.
There is a slight parrallel between Nevermore's S/T effort and Burnt Offerings, a little bit being the production, and a little being the groove-oriented thrash riffs, like CBF... Where iced earth released the same album twice, nevermore did the total opposite, and totally reinvented their sound with their following albums, In Memory and POE... while IM was only an EP, it was alot stronger than Iced Earth's full length albums at the time.
I won't go into details, for you people can hear for yourselves the difference between POE and Something Wicked, Dreaming Neon Black and HS etc...
Nevermore and Iced Earth Started off in the same direction, but nevermore took a totally different path, and cut their own way... but both bands have ended up again in a similar spot... heavy and thrashy power-metal, with a similar production (no room to breathe, guitars squashed to buggery, drums the same... the only decent thing about either production is the way that the vocals stand out...)...
Ledmag, you never cease to amaze me...
THANKS MAN, SO THAT MEANS I NEVER GET DULL THEN, RIGHT? hahahhaha
Schaffer isn't a great player at all, but he writes some really cool riffs, but just like pantera, they are like a shotgun, some bullets are right on target, and others are totally leftfield, out of knowhere.
VERY GOOD OBSEVATION OL PAL. I AGREE.
Simplified riffing, thrashy passages and catchy choruses, cool vocals etc...
RIGHT ON MAN
Nevermore are far superior musicians (no insult to iced earth, but this is a fact), and "the Politics of ecstasy" is unmatched in terms of guitar and drum playing. I applaude iced earth for not coming of as a second rate "we wanna be better musicians" style band, where they play a style which is out of reach for them, they have never given the illusion of progressive ideas or technicality.
VERY GOOD
Nevermore and Iced Earth Started off in the same direction, but nevermore took a totally different path, and cut their own way... but both bands have ended up again in a similar spot... heavy and thrashy power-metal, with a similar production (no room to breathe, guitars squashed to buggery, drums the same... the only decent thing about either production is the way that the vocals stand out...)...
100%
nICE ESAY DUDE, IT WAS VERY EASY TO READ AND STICK WITH. GOOD STUFF. I APPLAUD YOU.
i WAS MESSIN WITH YA MAN, GET WITH IT NEAL....
HAHAHHAHAHAHHA
*I WAS PLAYIN THIS TIME AS WELL. HAHHAHAHA*
wHATS GOING ON MAN? yo UHAVENT BEEN AROUND MUCH AS OF LATE.
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It seem sthe nevercrew were going for a modern sound, with a bunch of softy songs to boot. The softies are the best on the cd IMO/
Thanks man. YOu know, those guys who just flamed and that was it, i would really love to hear their opinions on the bands, in a non angry kinda way.
I found this topic at another forum, and it caught my eye. I replied to it, the same as the originating post in this thread. After i posted my reply, i felt as though other ppl may want to read soem opnions on this topic, since both bands are stuck together by most ppl. Anyway, i come across in a hostile way sometimes, but its just to add a bit of fun factor to th epostings. I suppose some ppl got angry about that, and I KNOW some ppl, like the guys here a few days ago, they just got pissed cause i dont agree with them.
Thanks again for you good replies here dude, come around more often if you will.
neal
wizard in black
naw i think the 2 slowest are actually the weakest on the cd. they are ok, but they are nothing compared to an in memory or deconstruction or dreaming neon black or any of the slow songs on any of the other cds.
-neal
yeah, those are good songs as well.
You know ive been thinkin, i need to tak ethis tread to the ie board. IT will get booted, but they need to see it.
yes, im gonna do it,.
You know ive been thinkin, i need to tak ethis tread to the ie board. IT will get booted, but they need to see it.
yes, im gonna do it,.
neal
wizard in black
yeh. it will get deleted before the end of the day im sure of it. neil the little webcunt over there cant stand anyone saying bad things about IE.
-neal
-neal
I know, im gonna do it this comin week. Ill make him boot me. Ill post it again everytime he delets it, and ill make threads about how big a cunt face foreskin shit bag he is, till he boots me off.
Are you gonna watch?
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Are you gonna watch?
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this topic. And then when the fuck delets it, im gonna post threads about the fuck. He ll kick me out. Thats the whole point though, to get booted. Whyelse whould i go post there.
come on man, get with it here, i thouht you just picked that name cause you liked it?
Im gonna post the originateing post, its full of anti IE stuff. ITs great stuff, even if i did write it. I hate to sound like Jon here, but u must admit, it is the record thread for the most posts on the neverhole.
Im gonna post the originateing post, its full of anti IE stuff. ITs great stuff, even if i did write it. I hate to sound like Jon here, but u must admit, it is the record thread for the most posts on the neverhole.
There were a lot of funny things happening throughout the post, so I wasn't sure
and yes, it is a record
and yes, it is a record
I agree, i have fully injoyed this thread to the MAX. We need more of these types of trheads around here.
DOnt you think.
DOnt you think.
neal
wizard in black
well yeh these kinds of posts are fun, but its hard to find such easy self incriminating targets like jon. i mean he gives us so much material to talk shit about. the little fuckwit cocksmoker.
-neal
-neal
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