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[Dak]

At this point, I'm planning on going back to college this fall, but starting fresh. Majoring in Psychology and minoring in Philosophy, with the intent to have my own practice.

I see a great need for phsychological treatment that isn't psychotropic dependent. I actually don't believe in psychotropics at all, and more research is supporting this approach.

That would be sweet, keep me posted!

Have you met with any UMers before? Trying to remember if you and Cythraul hung out once.

Yes, I met Cyth during a break at a concert in Phx. He can attest that I am short, white, and non-lethal. Hrm, make that non-threatening.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

At this point, I'm planning on going back to college this fall, but starting fresh. Majoring in Psychology and minoring in Philosophy, with the intent to have my own practice.

I see a great need for phsychological treatment that isn't phsycotropic dependent.

That's a little different from your previous plan to go 'off grid' isn't it?

Yes, I met Cyth during a break at a concert in Phx. He can attest that I am short, white, and non-lethal.

 

[Dak]

That's a little different from your previous plan to go 'off grid' isn't it?

I don't see the grid having any influence over self employment in psychological counseling. In fact, a non-psychotropic focused/reliant psychological counseling practice is going to boom in the event of an extreme "post-modern" collapse.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

well psychotherapists do seem to charge a lot these days, so maybe there's a lot of demand.

why not something like mechanical engineering though? that seems pretty useful to a survivalist, with a lot of applications that are independent of getting money from other people.

 

[Dak]

well psychotherapists do seem to charge a lot these days, so maybe there's a lot of demand.

why not something like mechanical engineering though? that seems pretty useful to a survivalist, with a lot of applications that are independent of getting money from other people.

Frankly math is my weak suit. I have relatives with their own construction related and auto mechanic businesses, and I intend to pick things up there as I can.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

fair enough. i actually majored in mech. e. initially in college, and got owned by the math. i switched to compsci so i could do something less mathy but still highly practical.

 

[Dak]

fair enough. i actually majored in mech. e. initially in college, and got owned by the math. i switched to compsci so i could do something less mathy but still highly practical.

I enjoy computer networking related stuff, but I do not see an off-grid future for it (obviously), not to mention, even without a post-modern collapse/off grid situation, I foresee less human techs required for maintenance.

Conversely, either in the event of a collapse, or if our current urbanization trends continue, the epidemic of mental maladjustment will continue and grow.

 

[Vimana]

Weird how we agree on something. Yeah, humans are more lonely than ever. We have tons of issues, and we are going about it wrong imo. As much as I'm becoming part of the problem, it still scares me that there will be a future where people who are more forever alone than I am are more common than I am.

Edit: That is with the current trends.

And it's especially scary seeing how "well-adjusted" those forever alone types can be according to some corners of the internet where they congregate.

 

[zabu of nΩd]

I enjoy computer networking related stuff, but I do not see an off-grid future for it (obviously),

what again makes you think the 'grid' is going to collapse?

not to mention, even without a post-modern collapse/off grid situation, I foresee less human techs required for maintenance.

there's still a lot of software development to be done, i can say that at least. we're far from automating every possible useful activity in the world.

Conversely, either in the event of a collapse, or if our current urbanization trends continue, the epidemic of mental maladjustment will continue and grow.

what do you mean by mental maladjustment?

 

[Zephyrus]

The world's so interconnected that people now assume that all their problems are everyone else's.

 

[Vimana]

The world's so interconnected that people now assume that all their problems are everyone else's.

http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-22-friendship_x.htm

This may not be a global issue, but I don't see why it can't be. Cultural barriers against social isolation (like the extreme family orientation in Latin American culture) can only last so long. The forever alone page on Facebook is in Spanish, and many people who like it are Latin American.

 

[Dak]

what again makes you think the 'grid' is going to collapse?

The grid is dependent on a massive amount of cooperation and vulnerable (and aging) technology. TPTB, regardless of nationality, view the unbridled internet as dangerous, and the actual electric grid that all our interconnectedness is based on is extremely vulnerable to cheap EMPs, solar EMPs, and a number of other possible disasters, both intentional and unintentional.

there's still a lot of software development to be done, i can say that at least. we're far from automating every possible useful activity in the world.

I always preferred hardware to software. Coding was never much fun to me, even when HTML was the main web language. Hardware is much simpler and will remain so.

what do you mean by mental maladjustment?

The inability of the average human mind to adjust to the rapid transformation of civilization, particularly urbanization and the technological social alienation, among other modern issues, is well documented. I do not believe that the widespread inability to cope/adjust is mental illness but instead an indicator of a healthy mind's response to a rapid advance in an unhealthy direction in civilization.

 

[Vimana]

I wouldn't call the direction of our civilization unhealthy, but I think some of the symptoms of its progress are.

 

[Dak]

I wouldn't call the direction of our civilization unhealthy, but I think some of the symptoms of its progress are.

Symptoms are a result of a root sickness. Japan is a leading indicator in the problems of our modern technological based civilization, and the results are staggering. Skyrocketing suicide and *forever alone* issues, gender not withstanding.

The bombardment of stimuli, increasingly sexual, but pervasivaley stressing, on the human brain, has led to an epidemnic of mental disorders. The disintegration of the stereotypical/historical nuclear family/traditional extended family unit due to industrialization and social feminism has been heralded as "progress" but has arguably caused the rise in the bipolar disorder and other sociopatholigical disorders.

 

[damnromulans]

Symptoms are a result of a root sickness. Japan is a leading indicator in the problems of our modern technological based civilization, and the results are staggering. Skyrocketing suicide and *forever alone* issues, gender not withstanding.

The bombardment of stimuli, increasingly sexual, but pervasivaley stressing, on the human brain, has led to an epidemnic of mental disorders. The disintegration of the stereotypical/historical nuclear family/traditional extended family unit due to industrialization and social feminism has been heralded as "progress" but has arguably caused the rise in the bipolar disorder and other sociopathological disorders.

Paragraph 1, yes.

Paragraph 2, how did you come to the conclusion that social feminism and alteration of the family unit are the factors to blame in increased instances of bipolar disorder, versus simply a society that's overstimulated and deluded into thinking a blue day = depression?

 

[Einherjar86]

Symptoms are a result of a root sickness. Japan is a leading indicator in the problems of our modern technological based civilization, and the results are staggering. Skyrocketing suicide and *forever alone* issues, gender not withstanding.

The bombardment of stimuli, increasingly sexual, but pervasivaley stressing, on the human brain, has led to an epidemnic of mental disorders. The disintegration of the stereotypical/historical nuclear family/traditional extended family unit due to industrialization and social feminism has been heralded as "progress" but has arguably caused the rise in the bipolar disorder and other sociopatholigical disorders.

The only reason those conditions are understood as "disorders" is because they prevent the individual subject from being an effective and productive member of our society. The "history of madness" isn't so much a history of objective mental disorders as it is a history of the changing psychological structure of the human mind, and society's acceptance and espousal, or disavowal and condemnation of certain behavioral types.

 

[Dak]

Paragraph 2, how did you come to the conclusion that social feminism and alteration of the family unit are the factors to blame in increased instances of bipolar disorder, versus simply a society that's overstimulated and deluded into thinking a blue day = depression?

Some of the factors. And yes, you are correct in that "episodes" are routinely over-diagnosed, because it's profitable to start feeding someone pills, and boy do we like pills.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

I've been drinking way to much whiskey lately. Seems like every night

 

[Cronopio]

Hello. I have a little beergut. How curious.

 

[damnromulans]

Some of the factors. And yes, you are correct in that "episodes" are routinely over-diagnosed, because it's profitable to start feeding someone pills, and boy do we like pills.

I'm pretty sure a lot of mild episodes are treatable with exercise, but that's too hard right?