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monoxide_child
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i agree with Overwatch in reference to Zephyrus
the pharmaceuticals are apparently not working for Zephyrus as well as they work for other people
for Zephyrus specifically, the "natural route" seems to be the way to go here
ASD
observing the sabbath
Damn Hurricane Sandy is probably the first time I incorrectly underestimated a storm. Lower Manhattan is without power or water, my dorms were evacuated. Thankfully I have my cousin in Queens to stay with.
The good news is...classes are cancelled forever.
The good news is...classes are cancelled forever.
King Richard
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Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
So in a moment of clarity this morning I cooked up an analogy that may apply to what's been going on with me. Treating depression with stimulants is like driving a car with engine problems at highway speed. Sure, it might get you to your destination faster, but the result is a doubly fucked up engine.
Going to ask my psychiatrist today to start me on Wellbutrin before any I sustain any more damage.
Going to ask my psychiatrist today to start me on Wellbutrin before any I sustain any more damage.
Astrum
Psion
NO. NO. NO.
Wellbutrin sucks and it's not the answer. Neither is Magnesium, although it will make you shit your brains out. And Pirecetam doesn't do much either, I have some of my own. I'm going to insist on a personal re-evaluation and a changed world view, a few revelations, and a spiritual awakening.
No amount of pharmaceuticals will fix what is broken without making you dependent or damaging you more in the long-term. And no psychiatrist can prescribe a magic pill.
Wellbutrin sucks and it's not the answer. Neither is Magnesium, although it will make you shit your brains out. And Pirecetam doesn't do much either, I have some of my own. I'm going to insist on a personal re-evaluation and a changed world view, a few revelations, and a spiritual awakening.
No amount of pharmaceuticals will fix what is broken without making you dependent or damaging you more in the long-term. And no psychiatrist can prescribe a magic pill.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
I've done some research on Wellbutrin and the potential for memory loss is alarming since that's what I was hoping to treat.
I'm at a total loss as to what to do now. I'm depressed, anxious and my working memory, short-term memory, long-term memory, you name it, are downright shot. The past three days I've been on no medication at all (though with some of the supplements) and each day has been worse. I'm like the walking dead at this point.
I came into the office an hour ago, and was about to start writing a 5-page assignment due Monday. I ended up staring at the computer, blankly. My head's on fire, I can't think at all.
Anything I try to do for it makes things worse, or else deludes me for a while then backfires. For example, there's some Adderall I can take right away and it might work for a bit, or it might just tweak me out and make me more anxious.
I just want to run outside and jump off a cliff. Good thing Iowa doesn't have cliffs.
ASD
observing the sabbath
If you underestimate something, it means you think its not gonna be as ____ as the majority says it will be. If said something is indeed proven to be or have been not as ____ as the majority presumed, you were correct in correctly underestimating. balls.
Dak
mentat
@Zeph: I more or less concur with Astrum. I don't think you suddenly got chemically imbalanced making these major life changes, but all these meds most certainly can create imbalances, and dependency, all the while making it worse.
It's going to take some sort of deep digging, and to stop panicking over what is not and start accepting what is. Stress induced physical and mental problems are real, and stress is created when reality doesn't square with expectations. Adjust your expectations.
It's going to take some sort of deep digging, and to stop panicking over what is not and start accepting what is. Stress induced physical and mental problems are real, and stress is created when reality doesn't square with expectations. Adjust your expectations.
Einherjar86
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While pharmaceuticals are certainly over-prescribed, it's no lie that they can assist people in coping with daily activities.
However, pharmaceutics is a massive industry, and the drugs that find their way to you inevitably do because the pharmaceutical companies have deals with certain insurance providers to hype their products. You're not being given choices based on drugs aimed at symptoms; you're being given choices based on which pharmaceutical companies have invested the most money in promoting their products.
However, pharmaceutics is a massive industry, and the drugs that find their way to you inevitably do because the pharmaceutical companies have deals with certain insurance providers to hype their products. You're not being given choices based on drugs aimed at symptoms; you're being given choices based on which pharmaceutical companies have invested the most money in promoting their products.
viewerfromnihil
Vein-Marbled Tower
Dot. Maryland state insurance, for example, requires that patients who are prescribed Adderal, Concerta, etc. receive the brand instead of generic.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
I've been working with my psychiatrist far too long to think she's feeding me whatever the state or system or whatever shadow conspiracy is paying her to poison me with. It's taken this long to figure out what's been going on, and it's major depression that has been largely untreated since the stimulants were just masking the symptoms. The result has been a down-regulation and imbalance of neural chemicals that is very treatable. I've simply lacked the patience to realize how long it will take to mend.
I don't want to hear anything about false expectations. I knew exactly what I was getting into when I showed up at this institution and the reality was that I had fallen into a self-destructive lifestyle during the interim year between undergrad and grad school, and it left me mentally unprepared to take it on. But I did take it on. I'm only taking two classes this semester (though they are grad classes) and so far I'm getting straight A's on my exams and assignments, but I'm going through hell every single day to make that so, knowing that once upon a time I was a master of the material I'm now finding myself either relearning or no longer getting a handle on.
I'm done with the stimulants, but I'm starting Wellbutrin tomorrow. I'm very likely genetically compatible with it, since it's worked miracles for my father. It treats anxiety, depression and tackles attention issues, too. I need to give it a few weeks to really feel the effects, and at this point it's all I have left.
And before you give me any shit, of course I'm skeptical of my doctors, as I am and should be about every perspective I get on these matters. But given everything I've gone through these past three months, this is the right plan of attack. They even brought in another psychiatrist in the room today in order to lecture me because I was being so skeptical. She told me that if this drug has any severe negative impact, that she'd write me up in a paper that would likely cause the drug to be taken off the market.
Einherjar86
Active Member
I didn't mean to imply she was conspiring against you. I said "whatever drugs inevitably find their way to you"; it's not your psychiatrist's fault, but she can only prescribe so many drugs covered by your insurance. Of course she's trying to do what's best for you; but the drug market itself restricts your options.
I have a friend studying pharmacology; I've talked with him about over-prescription before, and he said that, while it happens, the drugs that pharmaceutical companies create do often have beneficial effects for patients. In some cases, chemical imbalances occur, and these drugs can offset that.
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