Next Testament CD

Saying none of the big 4 use blast beats is untrue. Charlie Benante plays blast beats in "Black Dahlia" from "We've Come From You All". Also, Dave Lombardo plays blast beats on "Supremacy" from "Christ Illusion", and also "Public Display Of Dismemberment" from their latest album.

I personally only really have a problem with blastbeats if that is the only style of drumming on offer in a band's music. As it makes the music sound one dimensional, and dull. But blast beats can definitely be used to good effect when used in conjuction with other drumming patterns and styles.

I have no problems with blast beats being on the new Testament album, as I know they will not be a predominant feature. They'll probably be used sparingly, and just to spice up certain sections in a song (or songs). There's also a confirmed ballad on the album, so it's hardly as if Testament are going to go all grindcore on us or something! lol

Oh, and it seems like an eternity I've been waiting for the new album... please Testament, release a new track now, just to ease the interminable wait! :(
 
Seriously! this seems somehow longer than the wait between Gathering and TFOD lol!
I can't wait to hear this ballad they've come up with.I'm not really sure what my favorite slow one from Testament would be.
 
redfly said:
Seriously! this seems somehow longer than the wait between Gathering and TFOD lol!
I can't wait to hear this ballad they've come up with.I'm not really sure what my favorite slow one from Testament would be.
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Absolutely! I think the reason why the wait seems so arduously slow, is because the album title was revealed in the middle of last year. The release date was originally scheduled for October, then it was pushed back to the start of this year. Then it was scheduled for April, and now it seems like it's been pushed back again to May! :( The title of the new Overkill album was only revealed in January, and that is coming out at the end of this month, so in comparison, the wait for the new Testament has become unbearable! lol

"Native Blood" is apparently going to be the single, and I keep waiting for them to release it, and every day it isn't released, I'm going oh for the love of mercy, just release it already! lol :p

Oh, I can't wait to hear it too! I've always loved Testament's ballads, and I have missed them on the last 3 Testament albums. As for which one is my favourite, well.... I've always classed "The Legacy" as one of the greatest ballads of all time, though "Trail Of Tears" runs it very close! They both have this almost ethereal quality about them. I really hope the band haven't lost their magic touch when it comes to creating great metal ballads. xD
 
Yeah Slayer may have used slow blastbeats on their "recent" songs, and nobody likes them. It sounds out of place and like crap. Blast beats don't fit Slayer.


Anthrax used blast beats on 1 song Black Dahlia. This is the only one I consider using blast beats.
 
Alteredmindeath said:
Yeah Slayer may have used slow blastbeats on their "recent" songs, and nobody likes them. It sounds out of place and like crap. Blast beats don't fit Slayer.


Anthrax used blast beats on 1 song Black Dahlia. This is the only one I consider using blast beats.
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You can't say "nobody" likes them. In fact, you're the first person I've heard saying they don't like them. lol I myself do like them, and find they just add an extra dimension to Slayer's sound.

Charlie also uses a blast beat at the start of "Earth On Hell", and also inserts them at certain points whilst playing their old stuff live.

In any case, in both Anthrax's and Slayer's case, they are used very sparingly and have never became cornerstones in either band's sound. And I have no reason to believe it will be any different in Testament's case. I realise some people may think that blastbeats have absolutely no place in a band like Testament, but I don't necessarily agree with that. If it sounds right, and fits the song, then I'm happy with it. Besides, I think it's great that drummers like Dave Lombardo and Charlie who were such a big influence on many of today's extreme metal drummers are able to learn something new from those they influenced.
 
All I hear is people saying how they don't like Slayer's new shit. I don't hear people going oh Slayer used some blastbeats, they are even better than they used to be. It's like they are trying to get a thrill from some Slipknot style blastbeats instead of trying to make a well thought out record with technicality.

It's not a new trick or technique. It's just that blast beats had no place in Slayer songs and Kerry King wanted to be a little more like Slipknot. I know why Eric Peterson is using blast beats, it's because he's into black metal and Dragonlord influence is starting to pour over into Testaments music..
 
You're implying that the blast beats are the only reason people don't like the new Slayer material.
 
Angelic Slayer said:
Absolutely! I think the reason why the wait seems so arduously slow, is because the album title was revealed in the middle of last year. The release date was originally scheduled for October, then it was pushed back to the start of this year. Then it was scheduled for April, and now it seems like it's been pushed back again to May! :( The title of the new Overkill album was only revealed in January, and that is coming out at the end of this month, so in comparison, the wait for the new Testament has become unbearable! lol

"Native Blood" is apparently going to be the single, and I keep waiting for them to release it, and every day it isn't released, I'm going oh for the love of mercy, just release it already! lol :p

Oh, I can't wait to hear it too! I've always loved Testament's ballads, and I have missed them on the last 3 Testament albums. As for which one is my favourite, well.... I've always classed "The Legacy" as one of the greatest ballads of all time, though "Trail Of Tears" runs it very close! They both have this almost ethereal quality about them. I really hope the band haven't lost their magic touch when it comes to creating great metal ballads. xD
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Yeah I know! Overkill is just blasting away lol!

The Legacy is such a great slow song,it just has an awesome groove when it kicks in.And you're right they both have a very trippy get lost in it kind of vibes going on.The Ritual is also one of my favs.I'm not sure if it's a ballad but then again I think of ballads as having something to do with love and women and that's not really their style..thank god.
I just can't wait!
 
redfly said:
Yeah I know! Overkill is just blasting away lol!

The Legacy is such a great slow song,it just has an awesome groove when it kicks in.And you're right they both have a very trippy get lost in it kind of vibes going on.The Ritual is also one of my favs.I'm not sure if it's a ballad but then again I think of ballads as having something to do with love and women and that's not really their style..thank god.
I just can't wait!
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I think the difference is, once Overkill started work on their new album, they kept working on it until it was finished. Testament kept interrupting their recording by going on tours, which is what caused the delays, and the release date of the album to keep being pushed back. Every time over the 2nd half of last year (and the start of this year!) I heard Testament were taking another tour, I was thinking "Geez, stop going on tour and just finish the album already! Then you can tour as much as you want!" hehee xD

Nah, I think of "slow songs" as being doomy type stuff, like "Skullkrusher" by Overkill! :p

Anyways, what about "The Ballad"? That clearly isn't about lovey dovey romantic type things, but they still called it that... lol I've always reffered to those types of songs as ballads. And yep, thank god Testament don't generally make songs about love... that would be awful!

"The Ritual" is an immense song, but I've never really seen it as a ballad. Mainly due to the prescence of some ultra crushing riffs, and also the very dark nature of the music, even in the clean guitar sections. Talking of the "The Ritual", I wish Testament would give that album more love when playing live, it's so underrated! :( "The Legacy" is very atmospheric, and almost takes you off to a far away land when you listen to it. And Chuck's ethereal vocals definitely add to that sense of magic in it. It's been too long since "Trail Of Tears", so I'm really looking forward to hearing what their new ballad is like... hopefully it will be worthy of standing alongside their other classic ballads! xD

@Alteredmindeath: Well, that's a bit different from what you initially implied. That nobody liked the new Slayer because of the presence of (it has to be said, very minimal use of) blastbeats. Which definitely isn't the case. I've heard some people saying they don't like the new Slayer, yep. But I've never heard anyone specifically saying that blastbeats is the reason why they don't like it. Besides, I know that a lot of people also love the new Slayer material, so it's definitely not a unanimous feeling amongst Slayer fans by any means.

For me, "World Painted Blood" is mixed horribly, and has a couple of filler-ish songs, but there's some great songs on there too. I really love "Christ Illusion" though, and saw it as a real return to form for Slayer.
 
anomynous said:
You're implying that the blast beats are the only reason people don't like the new Slayer material.
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I'm not implying it's the "only" reason. I'm stating the blast beats does nothing for thrash, and you won't gain any new fans just because you put blastbeats in there to be different or try something new. I think the blastbeats in Slayer stick out like a sore thumb, and shouldn't be there like with Testaments music. It's like adding salt to pretzels, the formula is fine as it is and you don't need to put pepper in there to try and spice it up or make it better. Like I've said it just matters how much they use them, and how they use them will be determined.
 
Angelic Slayer said:
Not that I'm aware of... I can't say that it wasn't, but I've definitely never heard of it being titled that as a joke. :lol:
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I can't say for sure either.Something about an interview with Rip magazine is buzzing around my head.To me ballads are more subject matter than style.But that's me.
Fuck the weather is nice!!!
 
redfly said:
I can't say for sure either.Something about an interview with Rip magazine is buzzing around my head.To me ballads are more subject matter than style.But that's me.
Fuck the weather is nice!!!
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Well it might be true, but I have no idea whether it is nor not. :lol: I guess we just use different words for those types of songs, but at least we agree that Testament are great at doing them, not matter what they're called... lol :)

What is the weather like in New England then? I'm weird, I like the rain. :p
 
Oh! it's been upper 70's low 80's and sunny all week it's been great! No winter this year,last year we got buried! I like the rain too.I lived in Portland OR for a while and the rain didn't really bother me.
But I did miss the thunder storms here.
Testament does know how to craft some great music don't they!
 
redfly said:
Oh! it's been upper 70's low 80's and sunny all week it's been great! No winter this year,last year we got buried! I like the rain too.I lived in Portland OR for a while and the rain didn't really bother me.
But I did miss the thunder storms here.
Testament does know how to craft some great music don't they!
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Ah... same here! It's very unseasonal weather though. Over the past 3 months, we've had very little rain and very mild temperatures for the time of year. Though it could be a sign of things to come, if it's to do with climate change... I hope not, I want my rain back! lol :p

The winter we've just had was certainly nowhere near as bad as the previous year, that's for sure! I adore thunderstorms... but they don't come along very often... lol :(

If I didn't think that, I wouldn't be here! haha :p But yeah, I think I'm definitely looking forward to hearing the ballad/soft song on the new album the most. As it's been so long since they wrote one. xD
 
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