I'm not making too much of the Brady / Ryan comments. Brady "hates the Jets" and does not watch (can't blame him) the Jets hardknocks tv show or whatever the hell it is. Ryan "hates Brady and the Pats"...of course he does and he should. Its all stupid blowhard stuff that will somehow add to the hated rivalry.
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Agreed, I love the preseason. I love seeing the rookies play and to make sure the backups are sturdy in case of a inevitable injuries throughout the year. The preseason is essential to building chemistry, especially along the lines on both sides of the ball. I think it would be a horrible idea to eliminate two preseason games.
I forgot to comment on this earlier. I really can't comment on the false starts because he has yet to have one, but it certainly seems reasonable. a video that somebody made of every snap he took against the Giants. Honestly, most of it looks pretty good to me. You can tell that he relies pretty heavily on getting off a strong first shove, especially on quality speed edge rushers the likes of which the Giants are able to boast, so this game was a good test for him. The times he doesn't get a good first shove he's liable to get beat maybe half the time. On the Roethlisberger interception, he was clearly beaten, for example. The holding call he had is in there, but honestly I still question whether or not it was a hold. He's still learning his assignments and still adjusting to the new position, so I'm going to wait until the end of the preseason before I give any further judgement on the man. I think the coaches are trying to light a fire under him by creating what I believe to be the illusion of fellow free agent signing Jonathan Scott giving him a run for the position, which will hopefully help him stay motivated. Another tackle who has at this point been widely considered a bust, Tony Hills, is also looking seriously good, but he hasn't seen any top-quality opposition. I'm fairly confident right now that Flozell will ultimately be the Steelers' best option at right tackle by the start of the season. Hopefully he stays healthy.
BTW, I've been reading the Cowboys might be having some line issues themselves due to a couple injuries.
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I don't think its a horrible idea at all to eliminate 1 or even 2 preseason games...wish they would. Training camp is plenty long and allows time to build chemistry, develope things etc. This together with 2 preseason games should be suffice. The problem is the owners want and see a need to keep these games wether pre or reg season...obviously for sales, attendance, concessions etc. They would have to add 2 games to the back-end making it an 18 game season...then this becomes maybe too long? Its kind of a catchy situation.
ideally I'd rather a new 2 / 16 sched...but unlikely. If had to pick between two...would prefer the 2 / 18 over the 4 / 16. Atleast if a player is going to break a leg, would rather it be in a game that counts instead of meaningless pre-season games.
ideally I'd rather a new 2 / 16 sched...but unlikely. If had to pick between two...would prefer the 2 / 18 over the 4 / 16. Atleast if a player is going to break a leg, would rather it be in a game that counts instead of meaningless pre-season games.
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Insert joke about Bret Favre being old here
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d819f2f01/Vikings-vs-49ers-highlights
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/09000d5d819f2f01/Vikings-vs-49ers-highlights
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Ryan of course he hates the Pats. Brady does and that great for me. The Jets are fucking overhype this season. Ryan does it for me.He think his shit doesn't stink now and his team would win the Super Bowl. One of my least like team in the NFL. Fuck them and fuck Rex Ryan.
just a nugget to add to the previous schedule talk...
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/08/25/season.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/football/nfl/08/25/season.ap/index.html?eref=sihp
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An 18 game schedule is a horrible fucking idea. Do you guys really understand what NFL players go through after 16 games and then the playoffs?
Not only that, but because of that, all these players are going to demand more money and sit on their hands when it comes down to settling with the league vs. union crap.
If they expend their capital, expand their stadiums (which is what is going on), keep renovating and keep all of their capital up to the highest standards and invest (like the mara's have done)in the business it could be done but that's in an ideal NFL world.
18 games is just another ploy by certain NFL owners at the revenue crossroads.
Not only that, but because of that, all these players are going to demand more money and sit on their hands when it comes down to settling with the league vs. union crap.
If they expend their capital, expand their stadiums (which is what is going on), keep renovating and keep all of their capital up to the highest standards and invest (like the mara's have done)in the business it could be done but that's in an ideal NFL world.
18 games is just another ploy by certain NFL owners at the revenue crossroads.
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If the league intends to use only two preseason games, then they need to find a way to compensate for the experience lost to young players and role players trying to make the team, because two games is simply not enough. Jason La Canfora on NFL.com actually wrote a pretty interesting piece on the subject:
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...k-as-labor-talks-progress?module=HP_headlines
He mentions that a developmental league is theoretically possible for young players to gain experience that they would miss with the loss of those two extra preseason games. Although honestly I would much rather prefer a 17 game season with 3 preseason games as an acceptable alternative. I feel that this move is too motivated by, on one side, the oweners' motivation of garnering more revenue, and, on the other side, the fans' desire to see more 'real' games, completely ignoring the extreme importance that preseason games actually play in preparing a team for the regular season. I would not be happy with only two preseason games, although a developmental league would significantly improve my opinion. Of course there are other issues tied to expanding the season, but this is the most important to me.
Anyway, I might as well talk about the Steelers even more. Some interesting developments have occurred within the Steelers organization in the past week. For starters, all first-team center reps have now been turned over to Maurkice Pouncey, whose job it now is to lose, which he surely won't. This is the beginning of a new era for the Steelers offensive line. Having high level play at center should also help out the guards as well. I'm actually most concerned over the tackle positions now, but we'll see what happens. I would like the Steelers to try to either draft Mike Pouncey at RG next year or a highly rated LT in the first round.
Aside from that, Dennis Dixon is going to get some first team experience during the next preseason game. If he continues to perform at the level he has shown thus far, he may actually be able to steal away the job from Leftwich, though I still consider it a long shot.
Daniel Sepulveda will continue to split kickoff duties with Jeff Reed. If Sepulveda can kick it deeper with superior hang time, it would greatly aid the Steelers' special team woes. Plus, Sepulveda is a legitimate athlete who can make plays. He has saved an alarming number of touchdowns during his short career.
Antonio Brown will continue to field punts and kickoffs in the hope of making Stefan Logan expendable, opening up another roster spot for either ILB Stevenson Sylvester or one of the lesser CBs like Joe Burnett, Crezdon Butler, or Anthony Madison.
Finally, Will Allen will start at free safety against Denver because Ryan Clark almost died the last time he played at such a high elevation since he possesses the sickle cell trait. Allen has impressed me so far so I'd like to see more of what he can do. He should be a more than capable backup. Also, Bryant McFadden is more likely than not out for the Denver game, which means we'll get to see even more of Keenan Lewis, which I'm honestly pretty damn excited about. He had an awful rookie season and couldn't get on the field before he was injured because he couldn't play special teams, but now he's a special teams starter and after spending his downtime brushing up on the playbook, he's proving to be a legitimate corner on the NFL level. He made some nice plays against players like Calvin Johnson and Mario Manningham. Honestly, I would like to see an open competition between Lewis and McFadden for the starting right corner position. Either way both should see the field during nickel coverage.
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000...k-as-labor-talks-progress?module=HP_headlines
He mentions that a developmental league is theoretically possible for young players to gain experience that they would miss with the loss of those two extra preseason games. Although honestly I would much rather prefer a 17 game season with 3 preseason games as an acceptable alternative. I feel that this move is too motivated by, on one side, the oweners' motivation of garnering more revenue, and, on the other side, the fans' desire to see more 'real' games, completely ignoring the extreme importance that preseason games actually play in preparing a team for the regular season. I would not be happy with only two preseason games, although a developmental league would significantly improve my opinion. Of course there are other issues tied to expanding the season, but this is the most important to me.
Anyway, I might as well talk about the Steelers even more. Some interesting developments have occurred within the Steelers organization in the past week. For starters, all first-team center reps have now been turned over to Maurkice Pouncey, whose job it now is to lose, which he surely won't. This is the beginning of a new era for the Steelers offensive line. Having high level play at center should also help out the guards as well. I'm actually most concerned over the tackle positions now, but we'll see what happens. I would like the Steelers to try to either draft Mike Pouncey at RG next year or a highly rated LT in the first round.
Aside from that, Dennis Dixon is going to get some first team experience during the next preseason game. If he continues to perform at the level he has shown thus far, he may actually be able to steal away the job from Leftwich, though I still consider it a long shot.
Daniel Sepulveda will continue to split kickoff duties with Jeff Reed. If Sepulveda can kick it deeper with superior hang time, it would greatly aid the Steelers' special team woes. Plus, Sepulveda is a legitimate athlete who can make plays. He has saved an alarming number of touchdowns during his short career.
Antonio Brown will continue to field punts and kickoffs in the hope of making Stefan Logan expendable, opening up another roster spot for either ILB Stevenson Sylvester or one of the lesser CBs like Joe Burnett, Crezdon Butler, or Anthony Madison.
Finally, Will Allen will start at free safety against Denver because Ryan Clark almost died the last time he played at such a high elevation since he possesses the sickle cell trait. Allen has impressed me so far so I'd like to see more of what he can do. He should be a more than capable backup. Also, Bryant McFadden is more likely than not out for the Denver game, which means we'll get to see even more of Keenan Lewis, which I'm honestly pretty damn excited about. He had an awful rookie season and couldn't get on the field before he was injured because he couldn't play special teams, but now he's a special teams starter and after spending his downtime brushing up on the playbook, he's proving to be a legitimate corner on the NFL level. He made some nice plays against players like Calvin Johnson and Mario Manningham. Honestly, I would like to see an open competition between Lewis and McFadden for the starting right corner position. Either way both should see the field during nickel coverage.
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Shouldn't there be a lot more internal preseason games than necessarily trying to make money by flying teams around? I mean what does college do, and they have to make the same choices.
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I don't like the idea all around.
The Rams did very well last night against the Pats. Makins is a restricted free agent now. Where do you think he will be?
The Rams did very well last night against the Pats. Makins is a restricted free agent now. Where do you think he will be?
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It didn't bother me so much only because it happened in a preseason game. But if the refs decide to be complete assholes about this rule during the regular season I'm going to be irate.
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That rule sounds dumb. The players shouldn't have to worry about the refs. The snap can happen any time during the play clock, if the ref isn't in his position by the time the play starts, that's his fault and the offense shouldn't be penalized.
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