NFL 2012

[King Richard]

Gronkowski possibly broke his forearm, on the play they scored their 59th point allegedly.

lmao, thats what you get for running up the score

Ya, I got a good laugh about that too. That fucking guy is good though, my god.

 

[Dak]

Cowboys offensive line woes continue with more injuries and substitutions. It looked like a sieve against the Browns, Romo was sacked a season high 7 times and hit many more. I hardly saw any passing plays where he wasn't on the move.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

49'ers are looking good!
unfortunately it's against my Bears!

 

[zerostatic]

Every time I go out to a bar to watch the Bears they get destroyed. The players and coaches should be ashamed. With the way the offensive line is playing I wouldn't blame Cutler for sitting out the rest of the season. Those assholes are going to get someone killed. Chilo Rachal apparently left the team after he was demoted.

 

[muzmaze]

Stay home to watch...no going to bars. Maybe theyll win. ; )

 

[rms]

I feel like some of your articles are in the same vein as ESPN.com 's is that your intention? I remember being more opinion back in the day, but now it seems repetitive

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Shooting down the Eli Manning "tired arm" theory


http://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/11/21/week-12-n-f-l-game-probabilities-and-a-tired-theory/

The Giants’ offense peaked in Week 5 against Cleveland and has been in a relatively consistent decline since. The Giants’ worst outing was their most recent one, against Cincinnati. This has spurred theories of a tired arm for quarterback Eli Manning because of an accumulation of instances with a high number of pass attempts, like 51 against Tampa Bay, 42 against Philadelphia, 40 against Washington and 46 against the Bengals. But this is the worst kind of post-hoc analysis.

Manning has attempted just over 36 passes per game this season, which is no more than what he averaged in the regular season last year, and the 10th-most attempts for a quarterback this season. In last season’s Super Bowl-winning campaign, Manning had 742 attempts, about twice as many as in 2012 so far. With 364, Manning has thrown as many times as a major league baseball starting pitcher after four starts. Quarterbacks make most of their throws during the week in practice, with only a small portion during a game.

The tired arm hypothesis is particularly suspicious when you consider our neighbors to the north. The Canadian Football League is even more pass happy than the N.F.L., with a run-pass ratio of 35 to 65, mostly because there is one fewer down. The C.F.L. also has an 18-game regular schedule, and there have been no reports of arms falling off.

I think the tired arm theory stems from an inverse correlation between success and pass attempts. The better that teams play, the fewer attempts they need to make. Teams with leads take fewer risks and keep the clock ticking by running the ball. It’s a well known and understandable paradox, but the illusion that the extra passing causes losing continues to be seductive.

Had someone said that Manning (or any other quarterback or set of quarterbacks) was passing more frequently and made the prediction that they would be less successful, the theory would have more merit. But looking backward at the coincidence of a few extra pass attempts over a few weeks and declining performance is not good evidence of causation. And to the Giants’ and Manning’s credit, they didn’t entertain the theory themselves.

Manning brings his arm into an N.F.C. showdown with the Packers on Sunday night. If he plays well, you can bet some analysts will attribute it to the week of rest from the Giants’ recent bye week.

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

sucks about Gronk. makes me sad because I have him on both fantasy teams. But makes me happy because I hate the Pats
I took Stafford out and started Luck in one fantasy league. I bet Stafford has 3 tds...

 

[Krigloch the Furious]

HAHAHAHAHAHA, fucking refs!

 

[Dak]

Christmas came on Thanksgiving for Houston.

 

[skeptik]

Pretty sure that stupid rule needs changing. "All scoring plays and turnovers must be reviewed...unless you request for it to be reviewed".

 

[Mort Divine]

That has to be the only rule I can think of that exists solely for the cover of covering the officials asses after a horrifically bad call.

 

[King Richard]

I hate officials. The NFL needs to adopt my idea from like 20 years ago, and just have 82359825 different cameras on the field and ref the goddamn game from a booth. There's no reason why those retards need to be on the field and in the way of the players.

 

[Dak]

At this point the technology really makes it possible. Unfortunately, I think the NFL is going to keep Refs on the field if, for no other reason, it's impossible to mimic the Tech Ref at lower levels of play.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

So is Jim Schwartz gonna lose his job now? That was the biggest coaching blunder of the year and he was already in hot water.

 

[Dak]

As Dodens said, that is a stupid rule, and a new one. I can't really fault him. Suh on the other hand, made several questionable post-play hit, including an outright kick. If Schwartz can't rein him in, one or the other needs to be on the way out.

In Cowboy land, we are seeing another late season fade by the Rob Ryan defense. Now granted, he's working with a lot of backups now and the Garcon TDs were as much luck as skill, but still seeing too little QB pressure and too many gaps in coverage. 28 points in one quarter to a rookie QB (I don't care if it is IIIsus) is unacceptable, and allowing them to score just enough points at the end to put it out of reach of a comeback is just as bad. Parcells always said you don't deserve to win a football game if you allow more than 17-21 points, and I agree.

 

[CF87]

Patriots and Jets game last night was great. I knew the Patriots were a great team going into the game, but it was incredible how badly the jets played.

 

[Jimmy... Dead.]

Parcells always said you don't deserve to win a football game if you allow more than 17-21 points, and I agree.

The way the league is now I'd say more like 24-28.

 

[crimsonfloyd]

As Dodens said, that is a stupid rule, and a new one. I can't really fault him. Suh on the other hand, made several questionable post-play hit, including an outright kick. If Schwartz can't rein him in, one or the other needs to be on the way out.

Stupid rule or not, it's the coach's responsibility to know it. It's been in place since preseason. I knew the consequence of throwing the red flag the second he threw it- it's a weird rule, but it's not hard to remember- especially since they review every scoring play anyway; he as the head coach has no excuse for not knowing it. He let his emotions get the best of him, and honestly that's what you often see from his players (i.e. Suh, T. Young). In a way that play typified what's wrong with the Lions.

 

[rms]

How does he not know that a scoring play is reviewable? His fault completely as a head coach. But they still should have won that game, but for some reason there was what, 3 play calls for Johnson in the end zone during OT. Why not go for 3-5 yards and help Hanson out, which he obviously needed in hindsight.