Off Topic - Ozzfest's Maiden Fiasco

I don't think Miss K was actually evil though, after reading the Jens interview and what he said about her. Sounds like Timo called her up and got her to come in and do promo pictures and that was it or something.
 
Here's 2 cents;

It took more than Ozzy to make Sabbath. Sabbath has had great material since his departure. When Sababth tours Ozfest they play the same damn songs. Boring. Anyhow... on with the cents..

Ozzy was the show? Yah all that mic stand grabbing, clapping and tossing water on the crowd never gets old does it? "I love you all" "I can't fu-cking hear youuu". He's more predictable than the introduction to Cold Gin by Kiss.
(( there's the humor in the post, cue laugh track ))

Now I'm not gonna knock the influence of the man, but what Sharon did, according to EVERY FAN that was at the show and has spoken out was un-called for. Defending her or the Oz camp in general is like saying what they did was ok. Did Bruce say some shit he shouldn't have? Yes, but he didn't orchestrate a demonstration during the Sabbath set either. Sharon really needs to grow up and Bruce may need a slap of reality.

The British flag? Kettle=black. What a dumbass. Gee Sharon, where you from? Where did Sabbath originate from? Sheesh, that took some nerve. Someone pass her the saltshaker to go with that foot in her mouth.

Zakk Wylde once said in a Guitar magazine that Ozzy doesn't even write the songs anymore, there's writers for him and that they wouldn't know an Ozzy or Sabbath riff if one bit them on the ass. That's not a direct quote, I'm sure his was more colorful. Ozzy is a commercialized institution right now. His albums have been mediocre at best lately.

Also on Sirius theyre advertising that Ozzy is auditioning for a new guitarist to record the next album. You can verify that yourselves, I heard it yesterday on the Hair Nation channel 23. Ozzy loses Zakk and that's a sad move.

Sure he's had great guitarists, 4 cos you can't remember anyone else besides Randy, Jake, Zakk and Brad. "There WAS that one guy, who had blonde hair", and I do believe that's his full name, cos I haven't met anyone that knew it.

On to the other things of interest.

The Metallica "fans" as you put it, have every right to be pissed at their material. Metallica was metal, now they're 4/4 rock and bad cover tunes. The heaviest thing they've recorded that was any good was that Mercyful Fate medley. Their last album was a step in the right direction somewhat, but dam that mix was horrid. Once Cliff died and they ran out of Burton and Mustaine written material they declined. It's my opinion and the majority will agree with me. That's not to say what they're doin is wrong, if they like it and stand by it, more power to em, they just won't be getting my dimes. Other bands can stay true and make progress in writing songs staying with the times but not being something they're not; Suicidal Tendencies, Megadeth, Overkill, Anthrax, Testament, Death Angel, on and on.
 
metal71 said:
Incidentally, reading through the Blabbermouth posts, there are a few idiots suggesting an anti-US bias coming from Iron Maiden. This makes no sense; Bruce's MP3 rants were obviously directed at specific individuals within the Ozzfest camp, not the paying (US) fans in attendance.

So what did Bruce mean when he said, "This is a fucking British flag, and these colors don't run." Would someone please explain who he inferred was running (aka "cowards"). Was it the USA?

Hopefully he meant that Maiden wasn't going to run off stage because they were being egged.
 
Walter_Langkowski said:
I mean, what the fuck was the point of Maiden doing Ozzfest anyways? Getting a little more exposure? 55 million albums WHAT?

It's all about $$$$$. I can't help but think that the overly excessive flood of Maiden re-releases of re-releases of re-releases is nothing more than money grab after money grab. Remember that Sanctuary's stock is in the tank and they need to generate as much revenue as possible to stay afloat.
 
YardleyBates and I went to see Velvet Revolver with some friends. We had no idea who they were though I've heard of them. THEY SUCKED! It was pitiful. Even my friend - the guy who invited us - thought they sucked.

They are replacing Iron Maiden? Poor audiences.
 
I agree with the person who said they'd like to see a statement from Ozzy about this. I suppose it's possible that he had a hand in planning the whole shebang, but it doesn't sound like him. I have a friend in L.A. who knows Ozzy (played Ozzfest, lives close to Ozzy, was briefly in the first episode of The Osbournes) and he feels the same way...it doesn't 'feel' like Ozzy. He's not above playing practical jokes -- Battle for Ozzfest showed that -- but those were harmless jokes. Bottle-throwing is not.
 
:loco:

I just wanna make one more "dumb" post :rolleyes:

I am NOT defending what Sharon did!! I NEVER said that. Here's what I DID say:

"IMHO, if it weren't for Sharon, we would have lost Ozzy a long time ago. And I revere Ozzy as the one single most influential person in the short history of metal. I can't BELIEVE you fuckers are so vindictive towards someone you don't even know. I don't mind cussing, but you fuckers have uttered some of the most vile shit I have EVER heard directed toward a human being that wasn't a mass-murderer. Several of your words were far more inflamatory than anything any of the parties said.

I'm going to Ozzfest this weekend, and as long as they draw bands that I like, such as Velvet Revolver, Zakk Wylde, Rob Zombie, etc., I will continue to go.

Shame on all of you. It's fucking sickening.

Peace,
Chris

Here's a "dumb" response from Barking Pumpkin to my post:

"You condone her besides the fact that she got crew people to go into the crowd and throw eggs at Iron Maiden, as well as cutting their PA power, and then after the fact using the Official Ozzfest news page as a forum for calling Bruce a prick?

As I said already, Ozzy is a vegetable and a lame excuse for a singer and hasn't really done anything for me. It's not like he wrote the Sabbath riffs anyway.

OzzFest is strictly business, it's not about introducing new bands or anything like Prog-Power is, it's about taking popular bands, and making money off them. I don't see anything musical about that, and besides the one classic band they get per year to get the actual people who listen to music to spend money on their inflated ticket prices, it's a junk "music" festival.

Edit: I'm just running the hate machine today, aren't I....don't take anything personally."

Nothing personal taken. How do you get "condone" out of my observation of your (and others) vile reaction to my post?? :ill:

What I objected to (yeah, it's a free country) was the reaction from this board, who I used to consider a fairly cassy collection of metalheads:

Dolamite S. Biffle - "This is a fucking tragedy!! I cant believe that Kelly and fucking stupid friends would throw eggs at Gods of Metal!!! Kelly is fucking CUNT, so is her fucking slut ass whore CUNTRAG mother Sharon!!! Iron Maiden is way fucking better Sabbath any day out of the week!! God Damnit I cant believe the audacity of those god damn people. I cant remeber I was this infuriated."

Emerald Sword - "Iron Maiden have been my favorite band since I discovered them in ninth grade. I'm 36 now and they're STILL my favorite band. Fuck that manipulative, greedy, money hungry slag Sharon Osbourne! She'd be changing bedpans if it wasn't for being married to Ozzy. She uses him to make her money and spoil those fat little fucks Jack and Kelly. I only hope Ozzfest goes down in flames. The rest of Black Sabbath should get Dio back and make a kickass album! Fuck Sharon and everyone else who hassled Maiden! She's just a jealous cunt. By the way, Sharon, The Trooper is about the Crimean War. A war with the Russians YOUR country was involved in. Hence, the Union Jack you dumb fuck!"

AngraRULES - "I posted a link to Blabbermouth, but just go on blabbermouth.net and read about it. Sharon can go fuck an elephant... Her and her filthy ass whore of a daughter Kelly. I support Ozzy for what he has done to Rock and Metal... Too bad that cunt called Sharon turned his mind upside down and literally forced him to do shit he didn't have to.

Sharon, I hope you read this. I really hope you do. I hope ALL of your shitty plastic surgery falls off your face! And then I hope somebody do the same thing that they did to Miss K, former Stratovarius to you... Remember when some fans mailed her a box filled with shit? LOL that was hilarious!"

Actually - I find, "Go fuck an elephant semi-hilarious!! :heh: But bringing her kids into it... If you REALLY want her to see this, drop me a message - I'm sure I could get it in front of her!!

I'm going to Ozzfest this weekend and I was gonna wear a Savatage shirt, but instead, I think I'll wear an Ozzy shirt. If, by some chance I get egg on it, I'm gonna frame it EXACTLY like that and sell it to one of you fuckers on
e-bay!!!! :devil:

Anyway - I'm done with this thread. Anybody going to PPV wants to discuss this, I'm 6' tall, old and will have a Savatage shirt on at all times. There is a SLIGHT chance I'll be drunk!! :kickass:

Love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris :headbang:
 
SavaVIDude said:
What I objected to (yeah, it's a free country) was the reaction from this board, who I used to consider a fairly classy collection of metalheads:

Uh-huh...the post where you referred to people on this board as "f*ckers" and used the phrase "mediocre minds" was sure classy.

Pot....meet kettle.

In any case, some of the vitriol against Sharon has been expressed in pretty juvenile terms, I'll give you that. But your inner Ozzy fanboy was probably shining a bit too brightly as well.
 
Aw come on now, everyone gets pissed and everyone starts talking shit. For the most parts, yes, we are obviously a very classy collection of intelligent people, all of us in this board. That does not mean we're never gonna say the F word for instance or other stuff...

Don't gimme that story of "I thought this was a bunch of classy people but I was wrong" because of these reactions. It's funny, you never made compliments when we were being classy before, and that happened much more often than being "unclassy".

EDIT - Nice response. I forgot that he said "Fuckers" and "Mediocre minds" about some of the members here. Talk about being unclassy. Dude, that's almost crossing the border of hypocrisy.
 
AngraRULES said:
Aw come on now, everyone gets pissed and everyone starts talking shit. For the most parts, yes, we are obviously a very classy collection of intelligent people, all of us in this board. That does not mean we're never gonna say the F word for instance or other stuff...

Don't gimme that story of "I thought this was a bunch of classy people but I was wrong" because of these reactions. It's funny, you never made compliments when we were being classy before, and that happened much more often than being "unclassy".

EDIT - Nice response. I forgot that he said "Fuckers" and "Mediocre minds" about some of the members here. Talk about being unclassy. Dude, that's almost crossing the border of hypocrisy.

You know, dude - there's a difference between saying "fuck" (which is probably my favorite word!! :heh: ) and calling someone a "fucking slut ass whore CUNTRAG", or their kids a "cunt". BTW, what do Sharon and Ozzy's kids have to do with any of this?? If you "fuckers" don't see the difference, you ARE a bunch of mediocre minds!! :wave:

Taking it to someone's kids, is not my definition of "class".

Let me see your fucking cigarette lighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:

Chris
 
Dude, I can't fucking stand Sharon, period. You know well what she transformed Ozzy into. She may have saved him like you said, but she could've stopped there. When it comes to Kelly Osbourne... You watched the Osbournes, I'm hoping. You know the kinda shit she does. Tell me honestly, ain't she ridiculous? Kelly is not the classiest person in the world.

I see the difference between both, I know everything I said and that's how I think of them, classy or not. There's not only difference, but similarities as well. Afterall, calling someone "Fucker" and saying that the person "has a mediocre mind" is just as bad as what I did. It's not like you're classy at all.

And dude, I'm saying that shit about SHARON, not YOU. It's different to what you're doing to people in the board, calling them this or that because they dont like someone who's not even related to you. Can't you see the difference now? And even if you don't, I won't call you a mediocre mind, instead I will explain the difference to you.
 
SavaVIDude said:
Actually - I find, "Go fuck an elephant semi-hilarious!! :heh: But bringing her kids into it... If you REALLY want her to see this, drop me a message - I'm sure I could get it in front of her!!

They brought Kelly into it because quite a few people have reported that a disguised Kelly Osbourne along with a crew of Ozzfest workers were the people in the audience throwing the eggs, which is pretty trashy, since Kelly knows 0 about any music whatsoever, I don't see what business she has throwing stuff at Maiden, but it's all just a reality show for here anyway. :rolleyes:
 
SavaVIDude said:
You know, dude - there's a difference between saying "fuck" (which is probably my favorite word!! :heh: ) and calling someone a "fucking slut ass whore CUNTRAG", or their kids a "cunt". BTW, what do Sharon and Ozzy's kids have to do with any of this?? If you "fuckers" don't see the difference, you ARE a bunch of mediocre minds!! :wave:

Taking it to someone's kids, is not my definition of "class".

Let me see your fucking cigarette lighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :worship:

Chris

Dude, WAKE UP, stop being such a fanboy, there were reports from people that were there insinuating to having seen Kelly with a group of ppl with their faces covered up when the whole egg thing started.

I saw the videos, Bruce knew it had been planned and SAID SO ONSTAGE..who do you think has the power to plan something out like this, Ozzy? well, he has the power but like some people say, it's just doesn't seem right...however, we have seen how horrible of a person Sharon and Kelly are so 1+1 = 2, DUH.
 
The Fiddler said:
So what did Bruce mean when he said, "This is a fucking British flag, and these colors don't run." Would someone please explain who he inferred was running (aka "cowards"). Was it the USA?

Hopefully he meant that Maiden wasn't going to run off stage because they were being egged.

Yeah, fiddler, from what I understand, he just meant "fuck all you egg throwing bastards we're not going anywhere"
 
SavaVIDude said:
:loco:

I just wanna make one more "dumb" post :rolleyes:

I am NOT defending what Sharon did!! I NEVER said that. Here's what I DID say:

"IMHO, if it weren't for Sharon, we would have lost Ozzy a long time ago. And I revere Ozzy as the one single most influential person in the short history of metal. I can't BELIEVE you fuckers are so vindictive towards someone you don't even know. I don't mind cussing, but you fuckers have uttered some of the most vile shit I have EVER heard directed toward a human being that wasn't a mass-murderer. Several of your words were far more inflamatory than anything any of the parties said.

I'm going to Ozzfest this weekend, and as long as they draw bands that I like, such as Velvet Revolver, Zakk Wylde, Rob Zombie, etc., I will continue to go.

Shame on all of you. It's fucking sickening.

Peace,
Chris

Here's a "dumb" response from Barking Pumpkin to my post:

"You condone her besides the fact that she got crew people to go into the crowd and throw eggs at Iron Maiden, as well as cutting their PA power, and then after the fact using the Official Ozzfest news page as a forum for calling Bruce a prick?

As I said already, Ozzy is a vegetable and a lame excuse for a singer and hasn't really done anything for me. It's not like he wrote the Sabbath riffs anyway.

OzzFest is strictly business, it's not about introducing new bands or anything like Prog-Power is, it's about taking popular bands, and making money off them. I don't see anything musical about that, and besides the one classic band they get per year to get the actual people who listen to music to spend money on their inflated ticket prices, it's a junk "music" festival.

Edit: I'm just running the hate machine today, aren't I....don't take anything personally."

Nothing personal taken. How do you get "condone" out of my observation of your (and others) vile reaction to my post?? :ill:

What I objected to (yeah, it's a free country) was the reaction from this board, who I used to consider a fairly cassy collection of metalheads:

Dolamite S. Biffle - "This is a fucking tragedy!! I cant believe that Kelly and fucking stupid friends would throw eggs at Gods of Metal!!! Kelly is fucking CUNT, so is her fucking slut ass whore CUNTRAG mother Sharon!!! Iron Maiden is way fucking better Sabbath any day out of the week!! God Damnit I cant believe the audacity of those god damn people. I cant remeber I was this infuriated."

Emerald Sword - "Iron Maiden have been my favorite band since I discovered them in ninth grade. I'm 36 now and they're STILL my favorite band. Fuck that manipulative, greedy, money hungry slag Sharon Osbourne! She'd be changing bedpans if it wasn't for being married to Ozzy. She uses him to make her money and spoil those fat little fucks Jack and Kelly. I only hope Ozzfest goes down in flames. The rest of Black Sabbath should get Dio back and make a kickass album! Fuck Sharon and everyone else who hassled Maiden! She's just a jealous cunt. By the way, Sharon, The Trooper is about the Crimean War. A war with the Russians YOUR country was involved in. Hence, the Union Jack you dumb fuck!"

AngraRULES - "I posted a link to Blabbermouth, but just go on blabbermouth.net and read about it. Sharon can go fuck an elephant... Her and her filthy ass whore of a daughter Kelly. I support Ozzy for what he has done to Rock and Metal... Too bad that cunt called Sharon turned his mind upside down and literally forced him to do shit he didn't have to.

Sharon, I hope you read this. I really hope you do. I hope ALL of your shitty plastic surgery falls off your face! And then I hope somebody do the same thing that they did to Miss K, former Stratovarius to you... Remember when some fans mailed her a box filled with shit? LOL that was hilarious!"

Actually - I find, "Go fuck an elephant semi-hilarious!! :heh: But bringing her kids into it... If you REALLY want her to see this, drop me a message - I'm sure I could get it in front of her!!

I'm going to Ozzfest this weekend and I was gonna wear a Savatage shirt, but instead, I think I'll wear an Ozzy shirt. If, by some chance I get egg on it, I'm gonna frame it EXACTLY like that and sell it to one of you fuckers on
e-bay!!!! :devil:

Anyway - I'm done with this thread. Anybody going to PPV wants to discuss this, I'm 6' tall, old and will have a Savatage shirt on at all times. There is a SLIGHT chance I'll be drunk!! :kickass:

Love you all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Chris :headbang:
I stand by what I said! Please get over your denial of the truth.
 
So she DID TURN THE PA OFF, just a matter of time before she admits to the egg throwing...fucking BITCH.

SHARON OSBOURNE Issues 'Open Letter' To IRON MAIDEN's Manager - Aug. 25, 2005 Sharon Osbourne has issued the following "open letter" to IRON MAIDEN manager Rod Smallwood:

"Rod,

"I found your statement to be completely void of the facts that led up to Saturday's show. Your press release was written like an old-time '80s manager, trying to use every opportunity to try and sell the record and the upcoming shows instead of just dealing with the truth.

"These are the facts:

"You claim to have been in the business for 30 years and have been to hundreds of gigs, but can you tell me how many times you have heard of an opening band talking sh*t about the headliner during their set and getting away with it? Not only is Ozzy the headliner, but he is also the man who is paying your band $185,000 a night. We gave IRON MAIDEN a chance to play to the biggest audiences they have ever played to in the U.S.A. We accommodated them with their stage set and at the band's request we even scoured the audience for people wearing IRON MAIDEN t-shirts and brought them down front during their set to make them feel more comfortable. Tell me, what other headliner would do that? Unfortunately those gestures were completely lost on Bruce Dickinson who for over 20 shows continually berated Ozzy and Ozzfest during his set.

"Over the last 10 years of Ozzfest, we have worked with over 200 bands. None of them were ever disrespectful to Ozzy or any of the other bands on the tour. But for 20 shows we were forced to hear Dickinson's nightly outbursts from the stage: 'When we come back to America, we'll be back with a proper sound system,' or "We won't be playing the same old songs every night (like SABBATH),' 'We don't need a teleprompter (like Ozzy)' and 'We don't need a reality show to be legit (again, like Ozzy).' Night after night we heard his complaints from the stage about how 'corporate' the venues were and how 'outrageous' the ticket prices were. Strangely enough, if you want to get a general admission ticket to stand in a field to see IRON MAIDEN at Reading this weekend it's going to cost you over $120. I would say that's very pricey, wouldn't you?

"When an artist comes on stage and says he's not playing the 55 minutes that he was allotted and that he is going to play for as long as he wants (cutting into SABBATH's set), I'm not going to let that happen. Dickinson was under the delusion that the 46,000 people in San Bernardino had come only to see IRON MAIDEN. He even proclaimed 'This is not the Ozzfest, This is Maidenfest.' I guess no one told him that we have an audience of 45,000 to 53,000 people every year in San Bernardino.

"Here's another fact for you. Bruce Dickinson's own band was embarrassed by him. IRON MAIDEN leader, Steve Harris, even came to Ozzy's dressing room to apologize to Ozzy for Bruce's behavior before MAIDEN took the stage in San Bernardino.

"It's shameful that Dickinson felt he had the right to air his issues publicly onstage every night as a way to boost his own ego. Dickinson never once came up to Ozzy and me to voice any concerns. He certainly had the opportunity to do so every night. If he wasn't able to show us that courtesy then why should I give him the respect to air my grievances with him in private? Ozzy's only interaction with Dickinson was on the first night of the tour. Ozzy, being the true gentleman that he is, passed Bruce in the hall and said 'Good luck and have a great show.' Unfortunately Dickinson felt the need to turn his back to Ozzy and walked away. Frankly, Dickinson got what he deserved. We had to listen to his bullsh*t for five straight weeks. He only had to suffer a couple of eggs on the head.

"On closing, yes, I did cut IRON MAIDEN's sound. This is the way I look at it: Ozzfest is our tour. We built it into something that's lasted 10 years now. We've been responsible for breaking many new bands and resurrecting the careers of former superstars. Part of our success stems from the fact that when a band is on Ozzfest we treat them with nothing but kindness and respect just as if we had invited them into our home. You can ask all of the bands who have been on the tour. They all describe it as the 'ultimate summer camp.' It's like one big family. Unfortunately Dickinson doesn't have the manners to realize that when you are invited into someone's home, are seated at their dinner table, are eating their food and drinking their wine, you shouldn't talk disrespectfully about them (Ozzy, BLACK SABBATH and Ozzfest), otherwise you just might get your ass handed to you. Every action has a reaction. Was Dickinson so naïve to think that I was going to let him get away with talking sh*t about my family night after night? I don't think he realizes who he's dealing with. I will not endure behavior like this from anyone.

"I know you would love to keep talking about this because this is the most press that IRON MAIDEN has had in the U.S. in twenty years, but let's move on, shall we?

"Sincerely,

"The 'Real' Iron Maiden

"Sharon Osbourne"
 
She still hasn't addressed why, if only Dickinson was the problem, that the rest of the band (who were apparently innocent) had to pay the price as well. Not to mention the people who paid money to see the performance.
 
Except for the points mentioned by Ruthven (which are completely correct), Sharon actually made valid points. However, I still don't give a shit. Fuck Sharon Osbourne and her shitty festival.

Edit: I don't care how wrong Bruce is or how right Sharon is (even though she's not), I'll still side with Bruce on this issue.
 
Moreover, the evidence doesn't support Sharon's assertion that they only cut Maiden's sound because they said they were going to go over their time-limit. Numerous reports have confirmed that the power was cut at several different points during Maiden's set, well in advance of any 'going over' time...but really, the only time you'd cut a band's power would be when they actually exceed their limit.

Sorry, Sharon. It doesn't fly.