Personality Test
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speed said:
Well, appealing to human nature is a scapegoat argument I think. I think the fact that we KNOW about these things, yet idiotically ignore them paints quite a bad picture of humanity as a whole. We have zero respect for this planet or its inhabitants.
Ignorance, complacency and a general lack of empathy is what's wrong with the world today.
Speed, did you get zombified this past weekend by any chance?
Speed, did you get zombified this past weekend by any chance?
judas69 said:Ignorance, complacency and a general lack of empathy is what's wrong with the world today.
Speed, did you get zombified this past weekend?
Explain this zombified statement?
speed said:
True - but people hurting other people is how it's always been and will always be . It's just human nature , I guess . Animals , on the other hand , do nothing to harm us . We take advantage of the fact that we're superior to them and use their skins for our own selfish needs . I can't help but be bothered by this . I have pets and I know how wonderful they are . It just ... bothers me .
DeviousDVO said:
Ah, i understand. I suppose I take a very anthropomorphic view of the world. I also accept this savage nature of humankind. I;m not promoting it, I just understand it.
speed said:
Yea , sadly enough I understand it too . I just wish we could leave the innocent out of it .
speed said:
It's pretty easy to accept sitting back in your warm sofa with a beer in hand, right?
judas69 said:
Well I'd prefer that young lass in your avatar's breast in my hand. But what is your point? I am merely admitting no matter how civilized we get, we still retain a primal nature. Our inner Ted Nugent.
My point is .. you lack empathy, and it's very easy (almost hypocritical) to just sit back and accept anothers pain when you're not the one feeling it ..when you're not the one being skinned alive. It goes to show you really don't understand, if you truely did .. if you were in that position, you'd be pretty convinced otherwise.
judas69 said:
Mankind lacks empathy for anyone or anything one doesnt have personal or close contact with. I am the same, and no hypocrite. Do you care about the African children starving to death? Hm? If you were truly empathetic, you'd be doing something about it. But most likely you are not. So dont lecture me about empathy.
speed said:
1. One can still be empathetic, and not be in close personal contact. Susperia for example, is crying her heart out over this because she can identify with the suffering of these animals. This is what being empathetic is all about.
2. An empathetic person is also not required to make a donation to a chairty, or front a campaign either. Susperia for instance has issues with Peta and likely has not supported their fur campaign, this does not at all mean she still couldn't be empathetic to their cause.
The only requisite to experience empathy is understanding, and the ability to feel and relate.
Susperia
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speed said:
Why does being primal all of a sudden mean the same thing as being cruel?? What those men are doing is pure cruelty (as well as stupidity). I don't see much that's "primal" about it.
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judas69 said:
Well I really am tiring of your sudden decision to consider me un-empathetic. COming from you, the master of feelings and empathy (especially in your relations with susperia), I find this hard to stomach.
Towards domesticated animals, yes, I really dont care too much. However, my other coments on people are lamenting the fact we are not empathetic beings. Just because I accept the fact we as humans generally will not do anything to help our fellow man in far off places, and can rationalize their suffering, does not make a un-empathetic person.
Empathetic people cannot be in disagreement?speed said:
What you've done in your previous post is wrongly tie action, in with empathy. Although you would expect action to naturally follow, there are of course many reasons why it wouldn't.
Why you care any less for domesticated animals is your own prejudice. Animals are animals, pain and suffering is pain and suffering ..this doesn't change.speed said:
judas69 said:
Yes, every living animal enjoys pain and suffering sometime in its life. Unless of course we build magical castle in the sky where everyone frolics about with animals, and sings and dances, and loves everyone and everything.
Our problem is I am making very pessimistic statements about humanity that are for the most part, largely true--even if they are painful to hear.
I think my practical nature towards the subject, clouds the fact, that yes, I do feel for these people in far off places, but, since there are so many suffering, and so little one can do to stop the worlds suffering, most, yes most people become desensitized. I am sure you are desensitized. You have to be, because every day millions of people are suffering, or are raped, murdered, tortured, victims of natural disasters, war, police brutality, etc.
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