Actually WIWI definitely is, trailer sounds most accessible COB ever, if you can't hear it you have a problem.
Shovel is not, my hope rests on that being the actual sound of the album.
That's a matter of opinion, just as with whether or not you like the sound itself.
But that aside, I'd personally rather read/hear what the interview actually said in its own words rather than someone's personal take on it secondhand.