RELIGION DISCUSSION THREAD
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I think my last post wasn't clear...
I meant that an atheist can disregard gods and still change his mind if evidence comes up. It's just a pragmatic decision: 'Until there is some kind of concrete reason for me to believe in god, I won't'.
An agnostic thinks differently, although that term is a bit...controversial when it comes to its meaning. I like the original definition: an agnostic is someone who believes that whether god exists or not can never be proven.
So, it's got a bit of personal taste to it, really. To the eyes of some, I might as well be called an agnostic. According to my views, I'm an atheist. It all depends on where you draw the line between them
I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.
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its a stephen roberts quote.
Mine is word for word, Swabs' is a futile attempt at putting it in his own words.
Mine is word for word, Swabs' is a futile attempt at putting it in his own words.
My extreme problem with religion is that we are living in the 21st century and relying on morals which were acceptable in the first century (obviously this figure is subject to change due to which religion we wish to discuss). The fact remains we are completely unable to challenge these morals and dogmatic practices because they were apparently convened to us via the almighty. This, in any rational persons mind, is completely unacceptable. Unacceptable on a scale which can't even be comprehended.
Another thing, which really REALLY pisses me off is the theist ability to subsequently shrug off possible proof of origin (mankind, universe etc) through scientific means because of the dogmatic scriptures answer to life.
May I point out a biblical verse from revelations:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book
Lets come to a general understanding now, basically the bible is saying that you have to live biblical law to its fullest extent. I guarantee all of you theists on this board DO NOT. You know what this means? You're all going to hell, maybe not for your own actions, but for your actions to permit the constant "sinning" in your homeland to take place.
This also means that if you're a Christian you must believe that Earth is about 6000 years old, which has been proven wrong scientifically. Absolute proof has been made to nullify this ABSURD statement. There are actually more liberal Christians who accept Darwin's theory of evolution and the fact that the Earth is billions of years old. However according to the Bible, THEY ARE GOING TO HELL.
These extremely absurd, (to me completely fictitious) rules and regulations on what seems to be OBVIOUS mind control is simply why I can not, will not, am not and never will be a theist.
Another thing, which really REALLY pisses me off is the theist ability to subsequently shrug off possible proof of origin (mankind, universe etc) through scientific means because of the dogmatic scriptures answer to life.
May I point out a biblical verse from revelations:
For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and [from] the things which are written in this book
Lets come to a general understanding now, basically the bible is saying that you have to live biblical law to its fullest extent. I guarantee all of you theists on this board DO NOT. You know what this means? You're all going to hell, maybe not for your own actions, but for your actions to permit the constant "sinning" in your homeland to take place.
This also means that if you're a Christian you must believe that Earth is about 6000 years old, which has been proven wrong scientifically. Absolute proof has been made to nullify this ABSURD statement. There are actually more liberal Christians who accept Darwin's theory of evolution and the fact that the Earth is billions of years old. However according to the Bible, THEY ARE GOING TO HELL.
These extremely absurd, (to me completely fictitious) rules and regulations on what seems to be OBVIOUS mind control is simply why I can not, will not, am not and never will be a theist.
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btw God is never fair
He told Moses to kill all the Non-believers and so he did
and he also gave the judges the power to kill millions of people
He told Moses to kill all the Non-believers and so he did
and he also gave the judges the power to kill millions of people
ShadowDancer
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I think my last post wasn't clear...
I meant that an atheist can disregard gods and still change his mind if evidence comes up. It's just a pragmatic decision: 'Until there is some kind of concrete reason for me to believe in god, I won't'.
An agnostic thinks differently, although that term is a bit...controversial when it comes to its meaning. I like the original definition: an agnostic is someone who believes that whether god exists or not can never be proven.
So, it's got a bit of personal taste to it, really. To the eyes of some, I might as well be called an agnostic. According to my views, I'm an atheist. It all depends on where you draw the line between them
In that case I'm a bit of both, and will probably just shrug and say I don't know if anyone ask's me my stance in the future since the label's just seem to confuse anything. Cheers for clearing stuff up for me, though.
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I read the quote somewhere different to you then
I read it in newspaper a fuck off long time ago, it's not as if im gonna remember every word.
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Exactly what i was thinking
It's even better than my Chocolate thread Chocolate>>>> everything else.
Exactly what i was thinking
Chocolate>>>> everything else.
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Yep, that was in the time of Moses, when the old testament was written. During that time also was this big flood where Noah and his family + those animals got saved. Rainbow was the sign of the new alliance between people and God and he promised that he'll never do such a thing again.
Tr00. I think pretty much the same..
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