hyena said:
well, thanks for the responses and the discussion (and no thanks to salmy for the death threats, are you three years old?)
last night two friends of mine made a point that possibly made a lot of sense - in europe we assume that americans voted based on the same set of issues that we have in mind, first and foremost foreign policy (iraq). still, for americans the election was domestic, so possibly the issues at the front of the campaign were different: appartently a good chunk of US voters mentioned deciding based on moral values more than international policy (see nytimes.com and washingtonpost.com for some insight).
That wasn't a threat, but if I was as blind as you,
I would put a bullet in my head.
You are right about how they voted in america tho, the voting was based
a lot on religion, most of the Bush voted came from the more religious states
and mainly it was based on the gay issue.
And like Bill Maher in this weeks show made a good point, the country is in
the middle of a war, running with stuff like "who puts whos peepee in what
hole" is just totally moronic.
Not to mention that shouldn't be an issue in the first place, who the fuck
does it hurt if gays get married and get the same benefits as other married
people? Only the moronic (read christian) america would need a constitutional
change for this (or at least make it such a huge deal, like the world is going
to end).
Which reminds me of another excellent example of american intelligence,
I will quote this straight, almost word to word from an episode of "Real Time
With Bill Maher":
She is called Sandy Rios, president of CWFA (Concerned Women For America,
how fucking surprising) and she is supporting Bush' ban on gay-marriage cos,
and I definetly quote here:
SR: "This (gay-marriage) is breaking of the law, this is lawlessness and
regardles of how you feel of this issue, it should not be allowed."
"Bill Maher: Isn't this a flood you can't stop no matter how hard you try to
put your finger in the dyke (<- note the pun)?"
"SR: If homosexual marriage comes flooding in, we will all be losers, it's going
to undermine the future of civilizations. And If that sounds dramatic, we just
have to look backwards.
It's amazing to me that we think we are so smart, that we have discovered
something new, that no civilization has ever survived this kind of decadence,
but we're gonna do it. I'm amazed at that kind of arrogance.
We will not survive this, Bill, we will all be the losers, including our gay family
members and relatives (aren't those the same thing?). This (gay-marriage) is
not a winning proposition."
Then Bill asked her why Jesus didn't talk of gays (They were talking of
Passion Of The Christ earlier in the show) and if there was gays back then.
And she says "yes, there was gays back then, because that was a part of
what brought the roman empire down..."
