mutantllama
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This is why Iced Earth's song Brainwashed fits this thread. "Believe what I say or Burn in Hell". Christianity was just using that as a way to convert non-Christians into Christians.
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Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
But they claim he has, in the form of Jesus and through the prophets before him.
mutantllama
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But why can't he make it more obvious? Like him telling the whole world himself.. In fact, the prophets just make him seem more false in my eyes.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
Because then it would be concrete belief in fact, which is effortless, and proves no loyalty. Faith, however, requires effort and is a sign of devotion.
I was raised Catholic so I feel obligated to play devil's advocate.
I was raised Catholic so I feel obligated to play devil's advocate.
I'm 21 and a 16 year old girlfriend and I would hold hands together at church looking like a couple in love and my aunt and mother were pissed off at her and me. We'd make out outside and smoke cigs and we did not give a fuck about anyone there or the church.
That's the only time I had fun at church and believed in god.
That's the only time I had fun at church and believed in god.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
If a king ruled the world, and you could scientifically prove his existence, you make no effort to be his subject since he already rules the world. But if you believed in a king whose existence could not be proven, you have no obligation to be subservient. But if you have faith in his existence, then you have proven your loyalty to him on the most fundamental level.
mutantllama
Active Member
I see what you are getting at. Right now I'm in the middle of a DotA game, and was dead so I alt-tabbed because I was bored waiting. So I will edit this post with info.
Ok, I finished.
Why would God risk the future and destiny of ones soul, with the chance that they won't be a believer and have them burn in Hell? In fact, I would rather burn in Hell, than worship a God like that, who doesn't care about his people. Also, if God did show himself, then the religion and worship would still require effort, like going to church, giving up sacrifices, etc.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
You wouldn't rather burn in Hell, trust me. Even if you didn't like God, but knew he existed, you'd be better off obeying him, because a lifetime of worship is better than an eternity of torment.
And if God did show himself, yes it would require effort to do him worship, but at least now we have a logical incentive.
mutantllama
Active Member
Yeah, I guess that's part of the rebel in me when I said that I would rather burn in Hell than worship God.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
mutantllama
Active Member
Then again, depends on how bad the torture is. Something like Limbo isn't as bad as lets say level 2.
Zephyrus
Tyrants and Slaves
mutantllama
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mutantllama
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I honestly don't really care. If you don't have much to add to this thread then gtfo. Even I fucking added something.
I honestly don't really care. If you don't have much to add to this thread then gtfo. Even I fucking added something.
FerretallicA
HMAS Slagdestroyer
Here I was thinking this thread would be about the great and all powerful religion Ferretology, not these petty impostor religions like Catholicism and Islam. Disgraceful...
no rly.
I am going to this hell where it's like being crushed by nothingness while being mauled by demons eternally you can't see or fight off and regardless just being a soul you can feel the pain as if you still had a pysical body. I don't burn in fire or anything when I die, but I go somewhere and am forever tortured.
I am going to this hell where it's like being crushed by nothingness while being mauled by demons eternally you can't see or fight off and regardless just being a soul you can feel the pain as if you still had a pysical body. I don't burn in fire or anything when I die, but I go somewhere and am forever tortured.
V.V.V.V.V.
Houses Ov Mercury
AchrisK
Weakling
I'm a Christian.
If anyone feels they need some prayer, PM me and I will pray for you. Not that I have some extra-special connection with God that other people can't have. Just saying I am here. Also, if anyone wants to know more about Christianity from an honest, searching standpoint, PM me and I can try to talk to you about it. But anyone who just wants to antagonize or feign interest as a joke, please don't waste my time.
I really don't have the time or desire to rehash these arguments at this time. Maybe in the future. There is a level on which I really enjoy these discussions, but they are also time consuming and can be frustrating.
If anyone feels they need some prayer, PM me and I will pray for you. Not that I have some extra-special connection with God that other people can't have. Just saying I am here. Also, if anyone wants to know more about Christianity from an honest, searching standpoint, PM me and I can try to talk to you about it. But anyone who just wants to antagonize or feign interest as a joke, please don't waste my time.
I really don't have the time or desire to rehash these arguments at this time. Maybe in the future. There is a level on which I really enjoy these discussions, but they are also time consuming and can be frustrating.
ossa
dead stuff
I was raised in my early childhood by an evangelical Christian, and afterwards brought up by agnostics. I therefore feel that I have a lot of understanding for Christianity and tolerance for people with religious mindsets... But I'm personally not religious at all-- I find a great deal of comfort in science, more personal comfort than faith in a God could give me.
