The great and all powerful religion thread!

[AchrisK]

This should be in the evolution thread, but anyway, I enjoyed reading Gould's Evolution as Fact and Theory and will probably eventually bring it up for more discussion in the evo thread.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

There are theories about how much embellishment or whatever (I can't remember the proper term) takes place in how much time, and it has been said that the writing were close enough to the events to minimize that potential tendancy. Also contemporaries of the events were still alive when the writings occurred, so that if they had changed substantially, there would have been people who could have attempted to point that out.

That's an optimistic view; some gospels can arguably be dated as late as 100 CE, and there's much evidence that parts were written by anonymous persons who did not witness the events they were writing about (s/a large parts of Matthew and Luke being copied from Mark). Especially considering the earliest copies we have date to something like 400 CE, and they are all second hand accounts, you have to wonder if what we have now is anything close to what Jesus (assuming he actually existed) said.

 

[cookiecutter]

And even if he did say all that, why should we believe him?

 

[skeptik]

Because he's the son of God you dumbfuck.

 

[thisisaformicatable]

And even if he did say all that, why should we believe him?

If what he says makes sense to us, like any philosopher. Conservatively speaking, he was just a guy with ideas, not all of which were dependent upon "or else God will kick your ass" reasoning.

 

[cookiecutter]

I mean things like "I will return from the dead". His philosophical points of course, but those are opinion based. Obviously no one can rise from the dead, so even if Richard Dawkins or someone else who I agree with said stuff like that, I wouldn't believe that it would come true.

 

[Blue_Jay]

Because he's the son of God you dumbfuck.

AMEN!!!

 

[cookiecutter]

Atheist Experience Here is a very good TV show. It's 1.5 hours but the first 8 minutes or so are announcements.

 

[AchrisK]

AMEN!!!

Somehow I knew this would happen.

 

[CAIRATH]

Heheh

 

[CAIRATH]

Also there's this crazy bus in the town center here in Plymouth ocasionally. I figured I'd take a picture of it because it somehow is kind of funny (both the bus itself as well as the two scruffy looking people sitting in lawn chairs in front of it). It's The Modern Jesus Army!

I didn't want to get shot by the Jesus army so I took it from a bit too far away but oh well.

 

[Cythraul]

you're right, I do know god does not exist.

I bet you don't.

 

[A8]

Also there's this crazy bus in the town center here in Plymouth ocasionally. I figured I'd take a picture of it because it somehow is kind of funny (both the bus itself as well as the two scruffy looking people sitting in lawn chairs in front of it). It's The Modern Jesus Army!

I didn't want to get shot by the Jesus army so I took it from a bit too far away but oh well.

i figured there would probably be something like this out there, but its still very funny

 

[SionsBrother]

I'm getting one of those now.

 

[cookiecutter]

Imagine how pissed people would be if that said "Atheist Army".

 

[supseudonymous]

...or "Satanic Army"

 

[Alter]

Does everyone understand the great amount of difference between evangelical and catholic sects?

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

...or "Satanic Army"

"Glorious Order of the Cloven Hoof"

 

[Rabid Headbanger]

Does everyone understand the great amount of difference between evangelical and catholic sects?

One of them atrracts energetic people and the other attracts boring people.

 

[Alter]

One of them atrracts energetic people and the other attracts boring people.

Ok, no....

No one takes any of my posts serious.