The great and all powerful religion thread!

Just sent this a friend of mine who is a pretty stout christian, as this was the way he was brought up. It's the Gorgoroth show in Poland, that got a lot of people pissed, pretty humorous though.

Gorgoroth Poland Show
 
Rabid Headbanger said:
How about all christians eat some humble pie and get thier fucking religion out of my face,, and stop being so poroud that "Jesus loves you"... I don't care.
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How 'bout this is a thread about religion, so if you don't like it,

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Rabid Headbanger said:
Then how 'bout he humbles himself and gets the fuck out.\

How about all christians eat some humble pie and get thier fucking religion out of my face,, and stop being so poroud that "Jesus loves you"... I don't care.
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How about shut the fuck up and die you insignificant piece of shit.
 
AchrisK said:
No, you see we are talking about two different things. The origin of life is separate from the origin of the universe. Science has many theories on the origin of the universe and on the evolution of living organisms, but when it comes to how life began, they have nothing that doesn't have huge problems.
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Actually there are numerous hypotheses about the origin of life. Abiogenesis has also been experimentally proven. And again, even if science had no clue, that in no way suggests that Christianity or any religion is correct. The religious hypothesis of "God did it" has never had any supporting evidence, and therefore should not be considered plausible.

AchrisK said:
Actually the problem with the origin of life and the odds against it basically say that it could not have happened on accident. Plus the incredible complexity and intricacy and balance that exists in the universe, and in our world, and even in the most simple living organism speak clearly of design. If you came across anything with even a fraction of that complexity on the ground (say, a computer) you would never assume it was the result of chance. This is enough to warrant the allowance of another theory into the educational system. It would be funny if it wasn't so sad, the lengths that some people will go to deny any sort of creator.
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The Theory of Evolution, which as I said is abundantly supported by observed facts, clearly explains this objection. Life built up to this complexity over billions of years through the process of natural selection. This has been shown time and time again to be true. If you can't or are unwilling to grasp this, I don't know what to say.

Zephyrus said:
Roman Catholic, church-going.

Becoming a metalhead has certainly challenged my beliefs, but I see no harm in keeping a faith that promotes a positive lifestyle and good works. That and the Catholic Church has really cleaned up its act in recent history, gravitating toward the more liberal side of the religious spectrum, and not full of fundamentalists or extremists. The Catholic Church is the world's largest charitable organization, and even non-believers should acknowledge that.

That aside, being a metalhead and a practicing Christian at the same time gives me the thrill of leading a double-life of polar oppositions within my character.
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I think it's great that churches practice charity, that they provide a community etc. But whether or not the Catholic Church is the largest charitable organization in the world has no bearing on whether or not their claims are true. And more often than not there is a bad side, and the Catholic Church certainly has one. Discrimination against Homosexuals, anti Women's Choice, anti Stem Cell Research. Do you believe in the teachings of the Catholic Church or do you believe in the good things it can give?

EDIT: For a better refutation of the watchmaker argument which AchrisK invoked (he used a computer) try this link, although I think saying "the uneducated man" is unfair: http://www.update.uu.se/~fbendz/nogod/watchmak.htm
 
Unfaithfully Metalhead said:
This is your Church not full of extremists, promotes a positive lifestyle and works, and has cleaned up it's act :rolleyes: :

http://www.secularhumanism.org/library/fi/shields_18_1.html
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I'm pretty sure that Zephyrus was referring to actual church goers, who are not nearly extreme as those very closely associated with the church. I live in a very Catholic city, and I do not know a single Catholic who accepts the bible literally. I went to Catholic school for 12 years, and a literal translation was never pushed on us. I do think some advancements have been made, but there are far too many areas in which the church is still very backwards.
 
Wasnt raised religious at all. Parents were christian/catholic or whatever, went to church when they were little.
There was absolutely nothing that had anything to do with religion in our house. It was great. My dad hates christianity, its great hearing his little rants at the dinner table... almost as good as his Bush rants.

I've basically been an atheist/agnostic my whole life.
my love for Norse/germanic mythology creeps in to how I feel about the whole "big picture" thing some times

oh, and I hate the big 3, and despise christians. :blush:
 
MasterOLightning said:
I'm pretty sure that Zephyrus was referring to actual church goers, who are not nearly extreme as those very closely associated with the church. I live in a very Catholic city, and I do not know a single Catholic who accepts the bible literally. I went to Catholic school for 12 years, and a literal translation was never pushed on us. I do think some advancements have been made, but there are far too many areas in which the church is still very backwards.
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Kind of wants to make me throw up that they made her look like a Saint who did good...
 
Blue_Jay said:
Archeologists digged up a bible that was predated to about the time Jesus died. The bible matched word for word for the currently modern bible so if you believe that man changed the bible, don't, it's been the same forever since the bible was made. Back then people could indeed edit the bible but it wasn't at a lightning speed like pace back then, but despite this it seems the origional has survived.
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This is the second time I've heard this, this week. Where do you get this, in church? I don't know of any religious scholar that would make such an obviously false claim.

It couldn't match word for word because the original texts weren't written in English. But that aside, what are you calling a "modern" bible? The King James Authorized Version? That too was written in English and came out in 1611, which is just a few years after the events it portrays. Further, King James had several stipulations that were taken into account for the translation, so it was modified from the texts it was translated from. This might lead one to ask why a new version of the bible was necessary when there were already 3 widely accepted versions (The Great Bible, The Bishops Bible, and The Geneva Bible) available. But that's a question of controlling a population and we're discussing how the bible has never changed, so I'll leave that for another rant.

I urge all the true believers and dogmatic literalists out there to read "Who Wrote the Bible?" by Richard Friedman, he's a Christian and he lays things out very clearly.
 
LithiumLulu said:
This is the second time I've heard this, this week. Where do you get this, in church? I don't know of any religious scholar that would make such an obviously false claim.

It couldn't match word for word because the original texts weren't written in English. But that aside, what are you calling a "modern" bible? The King James Authorized Version? That too was written in English and came out in 1611, which is just a few years after the events it portrays. Further, King James had several stipulations that were taken into account for the translation, so it was modified from the texts it was translated from. This might lead one to ask why a new version of the bible was necessary when there were already 3 widely accepted versions (The Great Bible, The Bishops Bible, and The Geneva Bible) available. But that's a question of controlling a population and we're discussing how the bible has never changed, so I'll leave that for another rant.

I urge all the true believers and dogmatic literalists out there to read "Who Wrote the Bible?" by Richard Friedman, he's a Christian and he lays things out very clearly.
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Yeah that's a good book. :cool:
 
AchrisK said:
I am a Christian. Pretty much fundamentalist, evangelical I suppose (assuming that means I believe in the Bible as the authority of the Christian faith). I was raised Hippy, then Christian. Then I went Stoner, then Christian on my own.

There are many reasons I believe in Christianity. Some have to do with personal experience, some with logical thinking, some with the accuracy of the Bible on so many levels.
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me too :kickass:
 
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