The thread about guns and stuff like that!

Okay.

I say that there is no reason to own a handgun. A handgun is only useful for hurting other people. Some people want handguns to make themselves safer. I say that owning a handgun makes you likely to use it in situations where violence is avoidable and killing is unjustified, such as a mugging or robbery. While every once in a while owning a gun might save someone's life, far more often owning a gun will get someone killed.
 
I own a gun for self defense and for range use.
why? because I fucking can!
you attack me and my family, you get shot! simple as that.
you break into my house, you get a gun pointed at you.

Im tired of the leftist pussies trying to take our guns away.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
 
Jesus Christ, do we need to go over the interpretation of that? Given the context, the idea is clearly that you can have militias.

Besides which, the framers of the constitution owned slaves and didn't let women vote. You think we should go back to that?
 
I own a gun for self defense and for range use.
why? because I fucking can!
you attack me and my family, you get shot! simple as that.
you break into my house, you get a gun pointed at you.

Im tired of the leftist pussies trying to take our guns away.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

Every time you post, the more I want to call you Cledus.
 
I want to shoot people who feel the need to point out in their thread titles that it's a thread. I also want to shoot people who start and contribute literally nothing in the first post. If you have nothing to say on a subject then why would you post a thread about it? Fuck.
 
Well, he wasn't interested in the debate, he was just trying to get it out of the pics thread.
 
Rifles and shotguns are legit because they can be used for hunting. I oppose hunting, but not very strongly - I think that unnecessary killing of animals is wrong (sport hunting), and a lot of people die in hunting accidents. But hunting isn't a big deal for me. Anyhow...owning a shotgun or rifle for hunting is fine. But real men use crossbows.
 
I will definately have a handgun or other form of defense in my house once I convince the wife. I have too much valuable property that I have worked too long and hard for to let some asshole waltz in and take. You wanna take it, there's a steep fucking price for it. Interest free even...
 
crossbows are for sissys that cant hold a string back on a real bow.

shotguns are used in robberies all the time. those guys are referred to as scatter men.

@psycho - exactly right.
 
I will definately have a handgun or other form of defense in my house once I convince the wife. I have too much valuable property that I have worked too long and hard for to let some asshole waltz in and take. You wanna take it, there's a steep fucking price for it. Interest free even...
:kickass:
Show her that its not a time bomb waiting to go off. That guns go boom only when you pull the trigger.
Lots of females enjoy shooting and should have the protection even more than us guys.
and then show her your gun :p
 
Besides which, the framers of the constitution owned slaves and didn't let women vote. You think we should go back to that?

RETARDED COMPARISON

I will definately have a handgun or other form of defense in my house once I convince the wife. I have too much valuable property that I have worked too long and hard for to let some asshole waltz in and take. You wanna take it, there's a steep fucking price for it. Interest free even...

I hope you people are aware that if you shoot someone breaking into your house, you can go jail. If they have no weapon or it is determined that the intruder did not intend to kill. Especially if the person dies.
 
How do you tell if they intended to kill you? Do they call psychics to the jury?

And how is that comparison bad? It's saying that the framers of the Constitution couldn't have had the foresight to see how exactly things would have changed over the next couple centuries. They had different societal rules than we do nowadays. Things change.
 
I own a gun for self defense and for range use.
why? because I fucking can!
you attack me and my family, you get shot! simple as that.
you break into my house, you get a gun pointed at you.

Im tired of the leftist pussies trying to take our guns away.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."

i support krig in this actually... i'd like to get one myself
 
Mathiäs;7127836 said:
I hope you people are aware that if you shoot someone breaking into your house, you can go jail. If they have no weapon or it is determined that the intruder did not intend to kill. Especially if the person dies.
So you wait until you are shot in the face, then you shoot?
 
Mathiäs;7127845 said:
el oh el. The only real way to determine that was if they had a weapon I guess.

Having a weapon does not necessitate will or intent to kill tbh. You can merely scare into submission with a gun. In fact that is one of the only things I would ever use it for if I even had one, I might not ever shoot it unless something really bad was going down.
 
Mathiäs;7127836 said:
I hope you people are aware that if you shoot someone breaking into your house, you can go jail. If they have no weapon or it is determined that the intruder did not intend to kill. Especially if the person dies.

i hate how the system favors the scum bag. once he breaks into a house he should loose all rights. v5 is right, how do i know their intentions. should i ask? probly no point in that,because i assume he would lie to me. and it just goes back to the question, why should i let someone break into my house with such ill intentions?