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swizzlenuts
i'm sciencing as fast as i can
Claws of Perdition
Wipes sitting down
swizzlenuts
i'm sciencing as fast as i can
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skyrefuge
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Well of course...the majority of "genuine Metal fans" are still wearing goatskin loincloths and bashing their women over the head with mammoth bones. Since they don't know anything about electricity, it's hard for them to appreciate mp3s. Luckily, I think "genuine Metal fans" are nearly extinct.
buying mp3's is fucking stupid, i love gazing over at my cd collection and going through it and spending 20 minutes rearranging it into alphabetical order when i get new stuff, you cant do that in winamp, well not to the same effect.
I'm curious, how many of you dont actually listen to the cd itself? I rip it onto my pc and the cd is kept safe in the case, I reckon about 5-10 of my cds would have sctratches the rest are perfect.
haha...your first line disagrees with my concept, but then everything else you said shows you have no use for CDs. You sure are confusing!
Ah, ok, at least you're logically consistent. We've got a smart one here!
Still, the fetishization of the Compact Disc format is kind of funny. There's hardly anything tr00 about a piece of shiny plastic that's read by a laser, and packaged as a neutered, shrunken-down version of an LP. Nor is it any representation of ultimate audio fidelity.
Not that I think vinyl should be honored in its place; I think the love of any physical format is silly, as they're all created as a set of compromises to enable mass production. If you truly want to honor the music with packaging that matters, you should sell the album and the device that plays it as a monolithic piece. Like a music box, or a player-piano. Or a set of mechanical monkeys that are programmed to play all the required instruments in your living room.
Finally, if the idea of "buying mp3s" (or FLACs, m4a, etc.) is offensive to you, think of it instead as "paying the artist create music". The music just happens to be delivered in an electronic format.
Which situation would you rather have:
Pay $10 for an album, and know that the label gets $4 and the artist gets $6.
OR
Pay $10 for an album, and know that the label gets $4, the paper and plastic manufacturers, the CD pressing plant, the shipping company, and the mailman get $5.90, and the artist gets $0.10?
Oh, but in that case, you *do* get a piece of plastic/cardboard to put on your shelf that you'll hardly ever look at.
Neil
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
quite a miserable human being aren't you? 
I think the artists themselves like to see their own music packaged nicely, even if that means taking a hit on their profits
And since artists and fans are alike, everyone likes the sentiment of collecting something that looks cool on a shelf (and this goes for books, DVD, etc). Unless of course you're someone who watches movies on the computer or downloads text from novels and thumbs through it in Adobe
I'm all for digital music allowing you to sample....but sampling should lead to buying the real deal
I think the artists themselves like to see their own music packaged nicely, even if that means taking a hit on their profits
And since artists and fans are alike, everyone likes the sentiment of collecting something that looks cool on a shelf (and this goes for books, DVD, etc). Unless of course you're someone who watches movies on the computer or downloads text from novels and thumbs through it in Adobe
I'm all for digital music allowing you to sample....but sampling should lead to buying the real deal
skeptik
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I'm not concerned with where my money goes. When I buy music, I want a physical, tangible product in my hands. It's not a matter of "fetishization," but rather a combination of a larger musical experience than merely the music, and of course base consumerism. My comment, which you so unjustly tagged as some sort of "tr00ism," is with regards to the aesthetic of music as art, and rather not simply sounds that go into your ears. There is a far greater level of appreciation of the music and the total experience with the ritual of the CD or the LP, the sitting down with the cover art and the lyrics, etc., that is so very obviously lost in merely purchasing sound files on the computer. If I was going to revert exclusively to mp3s, I would just illegally download all of my music, because there is no other incentive to buying the officially sponsored mp3s.
Your mp3 idealism is an admirable one and may work for some, but the particular breed of Metal fans that I am referring to (not tr00 Metal warriors, but rather active listeners who gather more from the music than merely the music) will not accept mp3s for various reasons, some of which I pointed out. You completely misrepresented my statement, and frankly, did so in a quite dickish and arrogant way, so for that you can F.O.A.D., but aside from that, if you're content with buying mp3s, that's fine, but there are a lot of people who are not, and regardless of the reason, this scenario makes releasing this type of music exclusively in mp3 format incredibly impractical.
If it was truly exclusively about the music, the artists would release the music in mp3 format for free download themselves, like Against Nature does.
Your mp3 idealism is an admirable one and may work for some, but the particular breed of Metal fans that I am referring to (not tr00 Metal warriors, but rather active listeners who gather more from the music than merely the music) will not accept mp3s for various reasons, some of which I pointed out. You completely misrepresented my statement, and frankly, did so in a quite dickish and arrogant way, so for that you can F.O.A.D., but aside from that, if you're content with buying mp3s, that's fine, but there are a lot of people who are not, and regardless of the reason, this scenario makes releasing this type of music exclusively in mp3 format incredibly impractical.
If it was truly exclusively about the music, the artists would release the music in mp3 format for free download themselves, like Against Nature does.
JayKeeley
Be still, O wand'rer!
BACK ON TOPIC IN MY LABEL DREAMWORLD:
Since releases will be SO damn super cool and exclusive, I'm going to have to do some pre-qualification to make sure they end up in a happy home
Don't ask me how yet, but I want to avoid the types of people who only buy to re-sell on eBay
And yes, RC folks get first dibs
Plus you also act as my eyes and ears when it comes to ideas
Since releases will be SO damn super cool and exclusive, I'm going to have to do some pre-qualification to make sure they end up in a happy home
Don't ask me how yet, but I want to avoid the types of people who only buy to re-sell on eBay
And yes, RC folks get first dibs
Plus you also act as my eyes and ears when it comes to ideas
Ars Magna
Ars Magna Recordings
I appreciate that. I try not to trade just for the sake of saying I NOW CARRY 50,000 DIFFERENT TITLES and that nonsense. However, I also feel bad at times saying no to trades from other small labels. It's tough for all of us right now and I feel like I'm turning my back on them in a way.
Then again, if they didn't release crap we wouldn't have this problem.
Kidding. Or am I?
Ars Magna
Ars Magna Recordings
Very well said!! I do the same thing with cds as I did with cassettes back in the day. I sit down, get the music started, look through the booklet, read thanks lists, etc. For me it truly is a ritual...one that I simply couldn't let go of. If nothing else, it is a wonderful anchor to the past. It's my own version of Sprinsteen's "Glory Days".
