top 5 non-metal albums of all time

[King Richard]

I like a lot of the bands Mort listed, but I disagree with a lot of his opinions about music.

That aside, I think every decade has their good and bad, and there isn't one I can think of that is better than the other.

 

[Einherjar86]

Rilo Kiley perhaps not, but No Doubt are an iconic band of the 90s.

Fuck that. When I think "90s music" I think of actually good bands. No Doubt was a fucking brief intelude of crappy music. There are far more "iconic" bands from the 90s.

I would actually rather listen to Rilo Kiley than No Doubt, and I would argue that in their genre they're capable of being quite influential.

Also, being iconic and popular doesn't make you a good musician.

Very true; but I feel that "iconic" can also just mean music that has had a long lasting influence. Bands like Pearl Jam and Nirvana were far more influential and impactful than No Doubt.

No, perhaps not, but it is still a joke to say that bands like Zeppelin, Cream, Pink Floyd, what have you are in some way superior to the bands of today simply because they're more 'complex' or 'melody minded.'

Effective simplicity is infinitely harder to pull off than complexity.

They're superior because they've had a longer lasting impact. They've withstood the test of time. No Doubt is already becoming the faded remnants of a stain that will be washed out with time.

 

[King Richard]

I would actually rather listen to Rilo Kiley than No Doubt, and I would argue that in their genre they're capable of being quite influential.

No doubt about it. ba da tssh. A-thank you.

As for iconic bands of the 90's? Well, allow me:

Radiohead
Alice In Chains
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Oasis
Green Day (Dookie rules)
Foo Fighters
Blind Melon
Bush
Sublime
Rage
R.E.M.
Soundgarden
Faith No More
Jeff Buckley
Kyuss
The Cardigans (I like them, eat a dick)
Beastie Boys
311
Manson
NIN
Tool
Creed (their first album is awesome)
Silverchair
The Verve
The Fugees
The Flaming Lips
The Black Crowes
Alanis Morissette
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Garbage
Temple of the Dog
Hootie
Blues Traveler
Matchbox Twenty
U2 (I hate them, but still)
Chili Peppers
Candlebox
Sevendust
Prodigy
Collective Soul
White Zombie
Counting Crows
Dave Mathews Band
Butthole Surfers
Type O Negative
Gin Blossoms

And I quit. That list, for the most part, is alternative music. I didn't even get into solo artists and other genres.

edit: I don't know why I decided to create that list, but I grew up listening to a lot of these bands, nostalgia is fun.

 

[Mort Divine]

They're superior because they've had a longer lasting impact. They've withstood the test of time. No Doubt is already becoming the faded remnants of a stain that will be washed out with time.

That is blatantly unfair considering these bands have had 30/40 some years to 'stand the test of time' whereas No Doubt released Tragic Kingdom in what? 1995? Not even 15 years since it has come out. It isn't 'fading' away. No one has forgotten about it. My local radio station still plays songs like Spiderwebs, Just a Girl, and Ex-Girlfriend (Return of Saturn kind of sucked as a whole but this song man, what a fucking song) quite often. When it comes down to it, yes, Gwen Stefani has soiled her reputation of an energetic skanking frontwoman over the years, but when it comes down to it Tragic Kingdom IS an album which will come into the next decade being remembered by many as a great album of the 90s.

 

[Einherjar86]

That is blatantly unfair considering these bands have had 30/40 some years to 'stand the test of time' whereas No Doubt released Tragic Kingdom in what? 1995? Not even 15 years since it has come out. It isn't 'fading' away. No one has forgotten about it.

I haven't forgotten about it because I never even knew about it.

It's not unfair; it's just the hard, honest truth.

 

[Ben_t]

Is Tragic Kingdom really still talked about? Just because the generation who grew up during the time when Tragic Kingdom was popular remember it doesn't mean it isn't fading away (or hasn't actually faded away already).

I believe it's the first time I hear anything about this album for a good 10 years if not more.

 

[Mort Divine]

Is Tragic Kingdom really still talked about? Just because the generation who grew up during the time when Tragic Kingdom was popular remember it doesn't mean it isn't fading away (or hasn't actually faded away already).

I believe it's the first time I hear anything about this album for a good 10 years if not more.

Perhaps not talked about in the sense that Led Zep and Pink Floyd are (somehow) still talked about, but it won't become forgotten. Perhaps it is just that I have a few friends with whom I always end up talking about the album that skews my perception.

 

[seedofvengeance]

No doubt about it. ba da tssh. A-thank you.

As for iconic bands of the 90's? Well, allow me:

Radiohead
Alice In Chains
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Oasis
Green Day (Dookie rules)
Foo Fighters
Blind Melon
Bush
Sublime
Rage
R.E.M.
Soundgarden
Faith No More
Jeff Buckley
Kyuss
The Cardigans (I like them, eat a dick)
Beastie Boys
311
Manson
NIN
Tool
Creed (their first album is awesome)
Silverchair
The Verve
The Fugees
The Flaming Lips
The Black Crowes
Alanis Morissette
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Garbage
Temple of the Dog
Hootie
Blues Traveler
Matchbox Twenty
U2 (I hate them, but still)
Chili Peppers
Candlebox
Sevendust
Prodigy
Collective Soul
White Zombie
Counting Crows
Dave Mathews Band
Butthole Surfers
Type O Negative
Gin Blossoms

And I quit. That list, for the most part, is alternative music. I didn't even get into solo artists and other genres.

edit: I don't know why I decided to create that list, but I grew up listening to a lot of these bands, nostalgia is fun.

We have very similar non-metal tastes. The 90's are my favorite non-metal era by far, though I do enjoy some older bands like CCR and Tom Petty, who are two of my all time favorites, but overall the 90's brand of alternative is just better to me.

 

[sadistik necrofiend]

A bit late to this one apparently.

I been a moody motherfucka lately so I definetly been indulging in some non metal stuff. I would have to say.

1.The Cure-Pornography
2.Wumpscut-Wreath of Barbs
3.Opeth-Damnation
4.Akira Yamaoka-The Silent Hill 3 Soundtrack
5.Lycia-Cold

 

[no country for old wainds]

a message from someone who is very aware of the classics of the past couple of decades (and likes/loves a number of them):

mort divine has gay, shitty taste in music.

also half the '90s stuff that's clearly most likely to stand the test of time hasn't appeared in this thread. my bloody valentine for example are prob second only to radiohead on that score, not that i like them much.

I just can't get into bands like Radiohead or, (not that they are similar) emo bands (real or otherwise) because of the vocals. Sorry if that sounds too simplistic but the vocal styles popular with current rock mostly irritate me.

in almost all cases like this it's no different from people who haven't got into growls - in other words, it would stop being an obstacle soon enough if you made an effort.

 

[V.V.V.V.V.]

you like radiohead

 

[Cythraul]

No doubt about it. ba da tssh. A-thank you.

As for iconic bands of the 90's? Well, allow me:

Radiohead
Alice In Chains
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Oasis
Green Day (Dookie rules)
Foo Fighters
Blind Melon
Bush
Sublime
Rage
R.E.M.
Soundgarden
Faith No More
Jeff Buckley
Kyuss
The Cardigans (I like them, eat a dick)
Beastie Boys
311
Manson
NIN
Tool
Creed (their first album is awesome)
Silverchair
The Verve
The Fugees
The Flaming Lips
The Black Crowes
Alanis Morissette
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Garbage
Temple of the Dog
Hootie
Blues Traveler
Matchbox Twenty
U2 (I hate them, but still)
Chili Peppers
Candlebox
Sevendust
Prodigy
Collective Soul
White Zombie
Counting Crows
Dave Mathews Band
Butthole Surfers
Type O Negative
Gin Blossoms

And I quit. That list, for the most part, is alternative music. I didn't even get into solo artists and other genres.

edit: I don't know why I decided to create that list, but I grew up listening to a lot of these bands, nostalgia is fun.

A lot of those are gay, but AIC is amazing and I really like some of the old White Zombie stuff. La Sexorcisto is a good album imo. I guess I like the more metal-ish alternative stuff.

 

[no country for old wainds]

anyone who judges radiohead without hearing kid a can go fuck themselves, and anyone who dislikes kid a can doubly go fuck themselves. ok computer is boring and the bends is gay.

 

[panzerfaust666]

I agree I dont like anything before Kid A.
What do you think of Amnesiac In Rainbows and Hail to the Thief?

 

[Thoth-Amon]

No doubt about it. ba da tssh. A-thank you.

As for iconic bands of the 90's? Well, allow me:

Radiohead
Alice In Chains
Smashing Pumpkins
Pearl Jam
Nirvana
Oasis
Green Day (Dookie rules)
Foo Fighters
Blind Melon
Bush
Sublime
Rage
R.E.M.
Soundgarden
Faith No More
Jeff Buckley
Kyuss
The Cardigans (I like them, eat a dick)
Beastie Boys
311
Manson
NIN
Tool
Creed (their first album is awesome)
Silverchair
The Verve
The Fugees
The Flaming Lips
The Black Crowes
Alanis Morissette
Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Garbage
Temple of the Dog
Hootie
Blues Traveler
Matchbox Twenty
U2 (I hate them, but still)
Chili Peppers
Candlebox
Sevendust
Prodigy
Collective Soul
White Zombie
Counting Crows
Dave Mathews Band
Butthole Surfers
Type O Negative
Gin Blossoms

And I quit. That list, for the most part, is alternative music. I didn't even get into solo artists and other genres.

edit: I don't know why I decided to create that list, but I grew up listening to a lot of these bands, nostalgia is fun.

wow... aside from a few good bands on this list... this list reminds me again why i HATE 90's popular music.

 

[Belligerent]

Pink Floyd have never been much more than idealists making music that is even less effective than idealism.

What are you trying to prove here? Yeah...and...they have at LEAST 5 SOLID albums.

ok computer is boring and the bends is gay.

you are beyond wrong

 

[Orion Crystal Ice]

You can't fix stupid.

 

[optionthree]

In no particular order:

Faith No More - Angel Dust
Ozric Tentacles - Erpland
Rush - Hemispheres
Kaddisfly - Set Sail the Prairie
Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine

 

[Thoth-Amon]

That is blatantly unfair considering these bands have had 30/40 some years to 'stand the test of time' whereas No Doubt released Tragic Kingdom in what? 1995? Not even 15 years since it has come out. It isn't 'fading' away. No one has forgotten about it. My local radio station still plays songs like Spiderwebs, Just a Girl, and Ex-Girlfriend (Return of Saturn kind of sucked as a whole but this song man, what a fucking song) quite often. When it comes down to it, yes, Gwen Stefani has soiled her reputation of an energetic skanking frontwoman over the years, but when it comes down to it Tragic Kingdom IS an album which will come into the next decade being remembered by many as a great album of the 90s.

the difference between Zep, Floyd and No Doubt is that Zep and Floyd made some incredible and iconic, groundbreaking music. Does No Doubt have any songs that even come close to a song like Kashmir or Stairway to Heaven or Dazed and Confused or Echoes or Shine on You Crazy Diamond or Comfortably Numb?
Frankly No Doubt are again one of those bands of the 90's that left me dumbfounded as to why they acheived such notoreity... I found them obnoxious.

 

[Belligerent]

Porcupine Tree - Coma Divine

Phenomenal live album, can't say enough.

Does No Doubt have any songs that even come close to a song like Kashmir or Stairway to Heaven or Dazed and Confused or Echoes or Shine on You Crazy Diamond or Comfortably Numb?
Frankly No Doubt are again one of those bands of the 90's that left me dumbfounded as to why they acheived such notoreity... I found them obnoxious.

Theres no reason to argue this one because Zep and Floyd will forever be remembered. No Doubt are absolutely dreadful. You either have to be a faggot or a 12 year old girl to properly like them...or like striped toesocks.