Sacha
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I'm a little scared to update now honestly! I'll probably wait for a few more updates. The beta sounds really good on a lot of things anyway...
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Why does virtual mixbus open internet port 61000 TCP and listen and virtual channel does the same on 61001?
jipchen
ForesterStudio
My first one got lost somewhere on its way, the second iLok took only 3 days. But I guess the regular packages take a bit longer.shit, it will surely take weeks until it's here
AdamWathan
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Empathy
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tempe
Captain Midnight
VCC is all up in your ports, uploadin' shit.
Seriously though that is really fucking weird. Anything to do with the new Pace Protection in iLok2?
Seriously though that is really fucking weird. Anything to do with the new Pace Protection in iLok2?
I have no idea. Yesterday was first day of ilok. Was troubleshooting erractic mouse movement to determine if ilok or vcc load related and happened to notice those network ports opening when loading vcc. It seems to open a connection for each instance up to about 3 or 4. Then if I remove all vcc instances the ports close and if I load again they do not open ports. It is consistent and can replicate it.
About VCC. The differences must be very subtle or its just time to upgrade my monitors sooner rather than later as planned.
About VCC. The differences must be very subtle or its just time to upgrade my monitors sooner rather than later as planned.
digitaldeath
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Ermz
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It's a cumulative effect. When you use it across all your tracks and busses, it adds up and creates a blanket of glue around the mix.
If it's anything like Nebula and/or the real console, I would say that comes at the expense of punch. Most people like to talk these things up, saying how punchy the SSL consoles sound, but that's just lies to me... you can hear it on any big name records being done on the 4ks. They have this sense of togetherness and cohesion, but the attacks and transients are all softened as a result.
You actually get the most punch mixing straight ITB, but it comes at the expense of sounding disjointed and sterile.
So once again - nothing to be gained for free.
PS. Just like mixing into a good analogue bus compressor from the start, using these saturation programs and mixing 'into' them gives you more tactile feedback, and gets your mix happening faster. It's a more dynamic and exciting way to mix - that is probably the most fun thing. You vibe from the word 'go'. Half the trouble in ITB land used to be to get things gelling together.
rcg
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I dunno.. I think you have cleaner transients without going into a desk.. but you have FATTER and more MUSICAL transients with the console. And I find that every one of the models increased kick drum punch and made the drums clearer in the mix. Also, when I took off the VCC plugins from one of the Lynch tracks I mixed (I mixed with VCC on first).. I was really put off by what I heard. The drums just sounded thinner and weaker, and the mix sounded more mucky and less exciting.
My biggest recommendation is to not use the Drive controls.. yes they'll add more color if you reaaaaally want it... But you'll get a truer emulation of real analog mixing without them, and you'll also get more punch since the Drive will increase the saturation which will soften transients a tiny bit (which might be a desired effect if you want it).
My biggest recommendation is to not use the Drive controls.. yes they'll add more color if you reaaaaally want it... But you'll get a truer emulation of real analog mixing without them, and you'll also get more punch since the Drive will increase the saturation which will soften transients a tiny bit (which might be a desired effect if you want it).
crillemannen
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I agree that VCC makes every sound sound more musical
But i don't agree that it makes the drums clearer in the mix. Im 100% with Ermin on this one. VCC softens the mix and adds saturation which is way more pleasent to the ears and also add that glue effect. But that is on the extense of separation that is why i stopped using it on the Master Buss and only uses it on the rest of the tracks and auxes. I found that putting it on the master smears out the mix / alter the mix a little bit to much for my taste.
Great Plugin btw im a happy owner
arv_foh
Brian K
Here is an unfinished rough mix I'm working on with and without VCC.. not metal, sorry
4k on every channel and the 2bus with 8x oversampling enabled for bouncing
http://www.btkphoto.com/clients/haloeffect/haloeffect_rough_noVCC.mp3
http://www.btkphoto.com/clients/haloeffect/haloeffect_rough_4k.mp3
4k on every channel and the 2bus with 8x oversampling enabled for bouncing
http://www.btkphoto.com/clients/haloeffect/haloeffect_rough_noVCC.mp3
http://www.btkphoto.com/clients/haloeffect/haloeffect_rough_4k.mp3
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Lucas D'Angelo
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Just to let you guys know, enabling or not oversampling on the master bus makes a BIG difference !
Charles J Wall is currently mixing / mastering my band's album, and we actually found out that it sounded much better with OS OFF !
More high end / clarity !
:Shedevil:
Charles J Wall is currently mixing / mastering my band's album, and we actually found out that it sounded much better with OS OFF !
More high end / clarity !
:Shedevil:
