What is the purpose of an argument?

Originally posted by E V I L


hmm, I'm not sure if this is directed to my post. But your welcome anyway. Anything to help a fellow New Yorker. :) Did you say you're in Yonkers? I'm familiar with the place- Central Ave, Getty Square, etc. :)

I used to live in Yonkers, but I moved 70 miles north 2 years ago. Much nicer here, I love the community and the schools. Great place to raise kids. What about you? You've been in NY all your life?
 
Originally posted by Jannet


Maybe I'm just not clear enough. I didn't get blasted by you; I got blasted by other people. You know you didn't blast me - I should have said "and then I get blasted by other people for trying to give you advice." I must learn to be more accurate in what I'm trying to say.

Belial, I've been here 9 days, (funny how everyone is keeping track of this but me), and I see it this way: I've had TOO much to say as a newbie, and people are not respecting me for it. It just boggles my mind that slander and epithets from other people towards me is not minded, but if I post an opinion, I've got 20 people down my back! It baffles me that people post absolutely useless threads, and then I get blasted for taking "too much space" in a thread. It's mindblowing that I get sliced and diced by Misanthrope, and cursed at by Wolff, and everyone sweeps it under the rug and state: "joke" is at work here, laugh it off, it's a funny..hahaha...And finally, some people take the time to post HUGE essays, and for some reason I'm told "slow down your posting,". One of these huge essays can equal 15 of my little posts, so I don't see the difference. There's a HUGE double standard here that I've noticed, and I sure as hell don't like it.

My advice? Ignore them. The whole drama starts when you keep going at everyone. I believe you know that doing that leads to nothing but them taunting you, you becoming angry and arguing fiercer, and in turn the forum starts to precieve you as an angry bitch who can't control her emotions.

I remember it was mentioned that at one time Wolff had the whole forum against him and he kept doing his thing and now everyone likes, or at least respects him for who he is. You could be another case of this.

On another note, I haven't posted this much in one day... ever.
 
I shall explain myself.

I do not think you can determine the difference between an insult, and a joke, when either is about/directed to you.

I had said this statement, because it was based upon an observation.

Originally posted by Belial

Jannet. You remind me of my estranged older brother. You two seem to think and speak EXACTLY alike.

Next thing I'll probably find out your last name starts with an H and you recently got a sex change.:lol:

Belial had said this, and you had responded with:

Belial, kiss my Puerto Rican ass after a good shit. See? Why the hell do I bother posting anything? It took me a good 10 minutes to write that, and all you can do is har-har it to death

And you took my post, regarding that I do not differentiate peoples intelligence, I just know that people are intelligent, as an insult. I was not referring to your intelligence, or anyone elses. I just find boasts (or modest claims) of intelligence are meaningless. It is impossible to measure ones intelligence, ones knowledge, as one is always (I mean ALWAYS) learning.

This was not something intended to insult you, not should it. I am stating one of my beliefs. Looking at it, now, I realise I should have stated so.

Going back to my first quote in this post, you had said this:

What?????????? How can you tell me when a joke is not insulting to me???? Yes you fucking can. If you're joking, and I took it as an insult, who the hell are you to tell me that it wasn't insulting?

I believe it is called humour. I personally think that you have been overreacting a lot on this board, from what people say - I say that as someone who has "gotten to know" these people who have "insulted" you. I probably would have made the same assumption then, as you are, but I am sure that they are not insulting you. It's just the way the message comes across to you. I've said it before - "for want of a better word", can be used to excuse some cases of an insult, such as me saying "this computer is gay!". It's obvious the computer is not "gay", but I say it nonetheless. A lot (Yes, I know I am generalising) people say this, for want of a better word, and this is some of what you are taking offence from. Some of it, yes, in fact is a joke. You take this as an insult, too, I cannot think of a definate reason why. Is it because the overwhelming amounnt of it coming towards you? I am saying this because I know it from experience, it is unfair to receive any amount of abuse, and when it does happen, you cannot always think straight, any thing added to it seems against you.

I have nothing against you. I have no reason to. I don't know if anyone has met you, and developed an unbridled hate for you, but apart from that, I cannot see why anyone should be insulting you, and abusing you on this forum.

I have made this post, not to excuse my actions (If they truly need to be excused), but to explain them. If you feel I am not accomplishing this, then say so.

My advice, though, is to control yourself. Analyse peoples posts from a neutral perpspective, read through the whole thread, in a neutral mindset. Don't read through and think "Look at how much an arsehole he's been to me" but try to find their logic, and your logic, and see how it all works. Think with your head, not your heart, as a lot of people do in situations like this.

Cheers,
Dean.
 
Sullen, you're a child, and I'm sick of children telling me how I think, who I am, and how I perceive things. I only read the first paragraph and I knew where it was going. I don't have the energy, or patience, to read the essay or respond. You're on ignore.
 
Belial, kiss my Puerto Rican ass after a good shit. See? Why the hell do I bother posting anything? It took me a good 10 minutes to write that, and all you can do is har-har it to death

...And you reckon Sullen is a child. *shakes head*.

May as well put us all on ignore then Jannet.
 
"Child" is not an insult.

It proves misunderstanding.

Misunderstanding that AGE is not a determining factor - KNOWLEDGE, WISDOM and MATURITY is.

"I only read the first paragraph" is not very enthusiastic.
 
Originally posted by Trapped


...And you reckon Sullen is a child. *shakes head*.

May as well put us all on ignore then Jannet.

The Belial thing is dead and buried, and I apologized for that outburst to him. So mind your business.
 
Like Lina (I think it was her), if you're going to say "mind your own business", you may as well have a conversation with him via PM's.

The forum is uncensored, and other peoples thoughts are welcome.
 
oh. sorry Jannet. I forgot. I'm not part of this.

It's not like i'm actually ALLOWED to post on the opeth board... I plain forgot!!

What do you expect?? I have nothing against you... But you come onto this board out of nowhere, and start picking fights and arguaments with people like Sullen, and throw around insults like 'Child' as if YOU aren't a child yourself. Trust me, you are a child, wether you are over 30 or not. You are a child.

As much as i disagree with about 96.8% of Sullen's posts, i respect his opinion for exactly that... it is his OPINION.

And now, about the whole 'elitism' idea, and the fact that you think we are 'ganging up on you'.... We have all been here a long time, and we are ALL freinds, even if we disagree somewhat, and you know what Jannet? Freinds stick up for each other. If some dude came on here attacking Misanthrope, or Belial, I would stick up for them, or 'But In' as you like to call it.

When someone (like myself) posts an opion, or a reply to a thread, you don't have to immediately dispute it and bring out the dictionary and throw it at us all.

I am yet to see one post that is a reply to a thread RATHER than just a arguament against someone elses OPINION.


Schpiel over...
 
Tell me jannet... are you going to ignore EVERYONE that has an opinion of their own?

... Who are you going to talk to when everyone is on your ignore list... and YOU are on everyone elses ignore list?

:rolleyes:
 
I am normally neutrally stanced in my opinions of people, but IGNORING people really destroys something that I hold high in my mind:

FREEDOM OF SPEECH

It's idiocy, it's pointless, I mean, who's she going to have left to talk to, apart from people who agree with everything she says?

I'm not going to hold onto civility - or any pretensions of it - when I can say this, but I think of her as an elitist, a hypocrit, a.. a reincarnation of Joseph Goebbles.

ANY TINE YOU TAKE ME OFF YOUR IGNORE LIST, I WILL BE HERE, AND I WILL OPPOSE YOUR CENSORSHIP YOU FUCKING NAZI.

Yes, I am pissed off now.
 
when I can say this, but I think of her as an elitist, a hypocrit, a.. a reincarnation of Joseph Goebbles.

:lol: I thought you were about to say 'a reincarnation of Jesus Christ'.

now THAT would have been funny. :lol:

Don't worry about Jannet, no-one cares what she has to say. :rolleyes: