What other GMDers influenced your music taste the most?

Anthems is a masterpiece. One of the most intelligent and carefully crafted black metal albums ever. It's laughable when people make claims like it's disjointed, as they obviously missed the point. Probably the same people who look at a Rothko and say "it's just colors!"
 
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Or maybe it's a pretty haphazard and often quite directionless album full of disparate musical ideas that are often unsuccessful. I'm going with that one, since I've heard the album. I'd even go so far as to say that the later Emperor music was often much more cohesive, even though I don't like it at all.
 
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The "Emperor perform sophisticated black metal art exclusively" message they decided to include on the back did them no favours. It comes off as incredibly pretentious, as does the album itself at times. I don't think it's a horrible album, I just never get an urge to listen to it.

My first black metal song was "I Am the Black Wizards", however, I didn't know at the time it was the EP version, so when I bought Nightside I was confused.
 
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Or maybe it's a pretty haphazard and often quite directionless album full of disparate musical ideas that are often unsuccessful. I'm going with that one, since I've heard the album. I'd even go so far as to say that the later Emperor music was often much more cohesive, even though I don't like it at all.

It's not haphazard in the least. It does require a certain level of intellect and focus to appriciate and I can certainly see how lazy or unrefined listeners misread it. Alas, high art isn't for everybody.
 
I like how all of crimsonfloyd's musical disagreements revolve around him being more intellectual than people who don't agree with him. Literally all of them.

It might be a refreshing change if he actually discussed why he disagrees with people on a musical level.
 
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I like how all of crimsonfloyd's musical disagreements revolve around him being more intellectual than people who don't agree with him. Literally all of them.

It might be a refreshing change if he actually discussed why he disagrees with people on a musical level.

It's usually a waste of time to be honest, as most people aren't self-actualized enough to reconsider their own point of view. But it's a great album, so I'd love to discuss it.

Calling it directionless is objectively false. The album has a clear arc both sonically and conceptually (though really the two cannot be disjointed in this masterpiece). The album conveys the power of one sacrificing oneself over to evil. The album literally begins with a ritualistic prayer to the night spirit, which pulls the protagonist down into the chaos of dark spirituality as the the dark spirit introduces itself on "Ye Entrancemperium." The protagonist merges with Evil gaining a transcendent power, which is conveyed through the majestic high tones of the synths and guitar leads. However, he is also enslaved to this evil and is constantly dragged down by the very fuel that feeds his strength. This is conveyed through the super dense low end of the record. There's a constant ebb and flow between these highs and lows, which typically correlates with the tone and connotation of the lyrics. The album's arc finally culminates in "With Strength I Burn," where the protagonist is blinded by his own pursuit of dark wisdom and is then left to blindly wonder on the ultra-bleak closer.

It's a masterful exploration of the nature of evil, the power that comes with it, but also the destruction of the individual who explores its depths. That's one of the central motifs of the second wave and nowhere was it explored and communicated more completely than on Anthems. In that sense, it is the one of the culminations of the movement.
 
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It's usually a waste of time to be honest, as most people aren't self-actualized enough to reconsider their own point of view. But it's a great album, so I'd love to discuss it.

This isn't the case with me. I am willing to re-listen to a record with someone else's perspective and thoughts on it in mind to see if I can reconsider my opinion. This is especially true with albums I haven't devoted much time too. I'm familiar enough with Anthems to know that my opinion probably won't change, but your description was definitely interesting, and if I do get the urge to listen to it at some point I will keep it in mind.
 
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It's usually a waste of time to be honest, as most people aren't self-actualized enough to reconsider their own point of view. But it's a great album, so I'd love to discuss it.

Calling it directionless is objectively false. The album has a clear arc both sonically and conceptually (though really the two cannot be disjointed in this masterpiece). The album conveys the power of one sacrificing oneself over to evil. The album literally begins with a ritualistic prayer to the night spirit, which pulls the protagonist down into the chaos of dark spirituality as the the dark spirit introduces itself on "Ye Entrancemperium." The protagonist merges with Evil gaining a transcendent power, which is conveyed through the majestic high tones of the synths and guitar leads. However, he is also enslaved to this evil and is constantly dragged down by the very fuel that feeds his strength. This is conveyed through the super dense low end of the record. There's a constant ebb and flow between these highs and lows, which typically correlates with the tone and connotation of the lyrics. The album's arc finally culminates in "With Strength I Burn," where the protagonist is blinded by his own pursuit of dark wisdom and is then left to blindly wonder on the ultra-bleak closer.

It's a masterful exploration of the nature of evil, the power that comes with it, but also the destruction of the individual who explores its depths. That's one of the central motifs of the second wave and nowhere was it explored and communicated more completely than on Anthems. In that sense, it is the one of the culminations of the movement.

Nice exposition of your opinions on why the album is good. You still couldn't resist trying to claim that appreciating it is some kind of special intellectual feat before describing it, but at least you explained why you like the album for once.
 
This isn't the case with me. I am willing to re-listen to a record with someone else's perspective and thoughts on it in mind to see if I can reconsider my opinion. This is especially true with albums I haven't devoted much time too. I'm familiar enough with Anthems to know that my opinion probably won't change, but your description was definitely interesting, and if I do get the urge to listen to it at some point I will keep it in mind.

Thank. I'm definitely not speaking of everybody on this forum when I made that statement.
 
Nice exposition of your opinions on why the album is good. You still couldn't resist trying to claim that appreciating it is some kind of special intellectual feat before describing it, but at least you explained why you like the album for once.

Ah the opinions argument, as if all opinions were equal.

Also, much of I said wasn't opinion, but was structual analysis. For example, saying the album is directionless is not an opinion, it is an incorrect statement based on poor analysis of the work. Now, saying you don't like it's direction would be an opinion.
 
The bad typing really helps me take your opinion seriously.

Also, you're clearly confusing my opinion about what I see as a lack of compositional direction and development with some type of defecit in narrative direction, since that's what you chose to focus on when trying to explain why only your opinion is valid. Not like I really care since I don't expect you to formulate a real response, but that's obvious to me.
 
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The bad typing really helps me take your opinion seriously.

Also, you're clearly confusing my opinion about what I see as a lack of compositional direction and development with some type of defecit in narrative direction, since that's what you chose to focus on when trying to explain why only your opinion is valid. Not like I really care since I don't expect you to formulate a real response, but that's obvious to me.

I addressed the composition. Again, the record is beyond you. I don't expect a 5 year old to get Shostakovich and I don't expect you to get Emperor.

Also, I specifically mentioned that the compositional direction of the record is fundamentally intertwined the thematic direction of the record. Critiquing one when you don't understand the other is a pretty superficial analysis of the record and one that I do not respect. That said, the level of synthetic understanding I'm speaking of may be beyond you, in which case this conversation may be a waste.
 
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You didn't really discuss compositions, nor did you even talk about specifics of the actual music. There's absolutely nothing addressing the compositions in your post beyond general terminology that references the album as a whole without actually going into detail.
 
I addressed the composition. Again, the record is beyond you. I don't expect a 5 year old to get Shostakovich and I don't expect you to get Emperor.

Nice zinger, but, I've gotta ask, out of all of the 20th century composers you could choose from, you couldn't have thought of a more challenging composer than Shostakovich? Lady Macbeth and perhaps one or two other compositions excepted, Shostakovich was the sugar-gumdrop composer of the 20th century.
 
Nice zinger, but, I've gotta ask, out of all of the 20th century composers you could choose from, you couldn't have thought of a more challenging composer than Shostakovich? Lady Macbeth and perhaps one or two other compositions excepted, Shostakovich was the sugar-gumdrop composer of the 20th century.

The very simple answer is because he's my favorite. Many could have worked.