Caelum Adustum
Call me Ishmael
N1Ne said:
Call me vain, but I would see Opeth in a complete different light (a negative one, if that isn't obvious) if they had dyed green and gold hair spiked up and wore baggy clothes.
When you know Opeth is lost to us...
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Call me vain, but I would see Opeth in a complete different light (a negative one, if that isn't obvious) if they had dyed green and gold hair spiked up and wore baggy clothes.
Demilich
Remember
Caelum Adustum said:
Seriously? Even if they made the EXACT same music, as unlikely as that is?
Would you assume the musical maturity and intelligence was a fluke and they were just a bunch of stupid posers? You could potentially be cutting yourself off from a lot of good music this way. Whether you are is another matter entirely.
Caelum Adustum
Call me Ishmael
Usually appearance does correlate to what music they play.
By this I don't mean a band has to look a certain way to play any given style of music.
By this I don't mean a band has to look a certain way to play any given style of music.
Demilich
Remember
TheFourthHorseman
In The Twilight World
I think that the image has a part in the big picture. Who can honestly say they only care about the music (assuming that they know more about the band other than just the albums)?
Caelum Adustum
Call me Ishmael
IAmEternal said:You didn't answer ANYTHING I asked, but oh well
If they played the EXACT same music then no, I probably wouldn't make THAT big of a deal about it...but it still would affect my opinion a little.
MountainDweller
Under The Dark Moon
Iddlypods said:
Both of those are good to hear (as I wait for my Diabolical Masquerade CDs to arrive). I have the DVD but haven't had a chance to watch the documentary, so I didn't know he mentioned that about the possible concept album. Should be interesting, especially if they add that to the other Opeth elements of the past.
david411
Member
i think opeth wont sellout for the money because every year theyre getting bigger and bigger while sticking with their roots, metallica had to change styles to get the big bucks but i think opeth could do it without it. they would only get less popular by making mainstream metal
Reign in Acai
Of Elephant and Man
TheFourthHorseman said:Ah, AllWithin, what's with getting all edgy when someone criticizes Metallica in a different way than most people? Are you perhaps not, after all, in favour of everyone being entitled to one's own opinion, but rather in favour of blatant flaming like the kind you receive(d)?
If he made some points other than saying the word sucks like a 12 yr old I wouldn't of even commented. Let's keep the childish arguing to every other board on um that is infested by it.
Oh and caelum. Does October falls have any songs with some vocals? I checked on the 3 songs on there website. All instrumentals. Pretty cool nonetheless.
Caelum Adustum
Call me Ishmael
AllWithinMyMonster said:
Right now they are only instrumental stuff, Mikko says he plans on making a trilogy so this (The "Tuoni" demo) being the first part (at least I think it is supposed to be considered the first part) will be more simple and as it progresses he will add more metal elements and vocals.
KielbasaSausage
YARRRRG
even the first couple metallica albums werent anything near special... admit it AllWithin. Of course you wont because you have crappy musical taste.
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
Yeah, I've never been too much a fan of Metallica myself. Just very average metal to me, not to mention Kirk using the same scales for his solos for over 20 years and sounding generic to the max.
Back on topic, firstly I have a need to say that I hate where Steve Wilson seems to be driving the band. Mikael said himself that Steve's only work with the band was 'adding' things or making it 'better', but you can blatantly hear his influence on say BWP as opposed to Orchid, which was on a productional-basis... rather untouched (whether you consider that a good or bad thing is subjective). I think his influence has the potential to turn the band's style around alot, but never to the point of 'selling out' as that's just not what any of them are about.
I am one of the people that think Opeth dropped a notch for DnD, but I'm glad we got what we did, considering their production schedule and the fact that the band almost disbanded during the recording as the process was so bad. Since the band are planning to write all the material and then rehearse first, I'm going to wipe my mind clean and give the new album a whole new fresh chance and see what the guys can come up with when they aren't limited by time-constraints and intense pressure.
Back on topic, firstly I have a need to say that I hate where Steve Wilson seems to be driving the band. Mikael said himself that Steve's only work with the band was 'adding' things or making it 'better', but you can blatantly hear his influence on say BWP as opposed to Orchid, which was on a productional-basis... rather untouched (whether you consider that a good or bad thing is subjective). I think his influence has the potential to turn the band's style around alot, but never to the point of 'selling out' as that's just not what any of them are about.
I am one of the people that think Opeth dropped a notch for DnD, but I'm glad we got what we did, considering their production schedule and the fact that the band almost disbanded during the recording as the process was so bad. Since the band are planning to write all the material and then rehearse first, I'm going to wipe my mind clean and give the new album a whole new fresh chance and see what the guys can come up with when they aren't limited by time-constraints and intense pressure.
I was in high school when Kill 'Em All came out and I loved that album. It represented everything that was great about music. It was loud, fast, soulful, independent, and underground. It had some serious (for the time) musical chops. It threw a giant middle finger to the mainstream "metal" music scene. It was like nothing I had heard before. Witnessing Metallica in a small club in TX just before Ride the Lightning came out was a major life experience for me. They completely changed what I thought about heavy music. (Long live Cliff Burton!)
Now, 20 years later, Opeth does the same thing for me. (As does Lamb of God, Meshuggah, and others) I see little danger in Opeth becoming mainstream or "selling out". Mikael's music is so symphonic and complex, it would be impossible for him to make his music "more commercially accessible" without completely abandoning who he is as a composer and musician. It won't happen.
Lamb of God just signed to Sony and I am psyched to hear what they will do with a big studio budget. I'm not afraid of them sucking the corporate cock, so to speak. Koch is the perfect label for Opeth. Their large, well-respected classical background is the perfect musical complement to the majesty of Opeth.
I only recently was turned on to Opeth and I'm about to see them live for the first time tomorrow (Sat.) Imagine my anticipation....
Now, 20 years later, Opeth does the same thing for me. (As does Lamb of God, Meshuggah, and others) I see little danger in Opeth becoming mainstream or "selling out". Mikael's music is so symphonic and complex, it would be impossible for him to make his music "more commercially accessible" without completely abandoning who he is as a composer and musician. It won't happen.
Lamb of God just signed to Sony and I am psyched to hear what they will do with a big studio budget. I'm not afraid of them sucking the corporate cock, so to speak. Koch is the perfect label for Opeth. Their large, well-respected classical background is the perfect musical complement to the majesty of Opeth.
I only recently was turned on to Opeth and I'm about to see them live for the first time tomorrow (Sat.) Imagine my anticipation....
StationaryTraveller
"Credence in my word"
jazzhead said:
I saw them for my first time at the palladium a few years back. Let me tell you man, it's an experience of something almost undescribable. To actually hear the recordings come alive is taking the music to the next level as a listener i believe. Anyway, have fun. Maybe i'll see you there.
Evil Ernie
Ungodly freak, defiler
I think D1-D2 are fuckin great albums.
The haircut thing is stupid.
I don't think that there is a matter of taking care of the fans in Opeth's mind. I think they are the kind of band that just want to write music they like and release as many albums as possible. They do not even consider making more money. I remember Mike talking about the growls on a video, talking about people saying he could get a lot more attention if he stopped using death metal vocals. It was out of any considerations, he said it was part of their sound, crucial to their music.
I'm surprised to see many fans give up on Opeth because they appeared on MTV and that they are getting more attention from the media. I think it could only be good for the band and the whole metal scene. I really don't care if the bands I listen to are popular or not. I would still love that band if they were as popular as Britney, as long as they are still playing kick ass metal music.
The haircut thing is stupid.
I don't think that there is a matter of taking care of the fans in Opeth's mind. I think they are the kind of band that just want to write music they like and release as many albums as possible. They do not even consider making more money. I remember Mike talking about the growls on a video, talking about people saying he could get a lot more attention if he stopped using death metal vocals. It was out of any considerations, he said it was part of their sound, crucial to their music.
I'm surprised to see many fans give up on Opeth because they appeared on MTV and that they are getting more attention from the media. I think it could only be good for the band and the whole metal scene. I really don't care if the bands I listen to are popular or not. I would still love that band if they were as popular as Britney, as long as they are still playing kick ass metal music.
ReDilS.kCalB said:
What are you, the fucking expert? Why tell someone how to like an album unless you a screaming fucking fag queer?
Scourge of Malice
Member
Deliverence lacking emotion? The lyrics on that album were more personal than any other to Mikael.
Opeth had not gotten worse at all.. theyre sound is changing. Who wouldnt be bored if they were still playing in the style of Morningrise?
Opeth had not gotten worse at all.. theyre sound is changing. Who wouldnt be bored if they were still playing in the style of Morningrise?
ReDilS.kCalB said:
I don't think I will change my mind regarding my appreciation of Blackwater Park. And how presomptuous of you to affirm that I will see in time. I'd say you will be the one that sees in time it is preposterous to consider Blackwater Park their second worst (after Damnation I presume) only because it brought Opeth some attention outside underground metal circles and seems like the thing to say for someone trying to be cool and original.
Orchid must be in your top 3. You da man !
I'm joking by the way ...
I hope Opeth does sell out. They deserve more money than what they are getting now and I wish it will make people discover their entire catalogue.
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