Which amp for a post-metal/sludge ?

[Amberience]

Yes, it will be more than £700. But y'know what, I'm willing to spend more than that now.

Have you used the Sig:X? What makes you think it wouldn't do good sludgey tones? What would you reccomend?

What would people recommend with a budget of £1500 / $3000??

 

[Amberience]

http://www.orangeamps.com/products.asp?Action=View&ID=55

*drool*

 

[Metaltastic]

I'm going to save up and get the VHT Sig:X.

Haha, what?! Thats a bit like asking advice for which Telecaster to buy and then saying you are going for a Caparison.

I'm not sure you'll be able to coax Sludge tones out of that... and I'm 99% certain it'll be more than £700!

Hahaha, seriously - VHT's are notorious for being some of the tightest, driest amps out there - great for tech stuff, not so much for sloppy sludgy stuff. I heard a sig-x at NAMM and it was no exception to their reputation. The earlier recommendations (SUNN, Orange) are what I'd go for.

 

[Seizure.]

A cheap option might be a Sovtek amp, they can be realy nice and dirty aswell!
But Sunn is the way to go for this kind of music!

 

[Amberience]

Sunn is rare as rocking horse shit, at least here in the UK. I've NEVER seen them!

 

[Amberience]

In reference to the Sunn Model T, isn't it just a clean channel amp?

 

[Exocaster]

In reference to the Sunn Model T, isn't it just a clean channel amp?

It's a non-master volume amp, and will likely be clean at less than ear-bleed levels.

Since you're in the UK... old Marshalls, Orange, Matamp (pricey, though) and I've heard some really thick and nasty tones come out of a Vox AC30 with a Rat in front. The Big Muff is a classic sludge pedal as well.

VHT is pretty much the antithesis of sludge. I'm quite surprised Aaron Turner uses an Ultralead these days.

 

[Amberience]

I have a Big muff. It's good, but not enough definition. I guess I shouldn't have said sludge.. many people are latching onto it. I'm more after an ISIS "Panopticon" sound (Think the first 30 seconds of So Did We) than say, Boris or SunnO))).

I would still like the capability for more doomier and sludgier stuff though.

At the moment, the only thing that interests me is the Orange Rockerverb. If I get the 50, I'd be able to drive the output tubes more than the 100.

 

[~BURNY~]

The Rockeverb is heavenly. Not only for sludge, it's much more versatile than you'd think. Both the drive and clean channel are amazing.
If you wanna save a few bucks, the Rocker30 is loud enough to make your ears bleed.
The Thunderverb 50 is also very good and you get a build-in attenuator which might come handy.

One tip to get more definition with a Muff:
Reduce the gain a wee bit: Put a tube screamer like in front of it and crank the tone all the way up.

 

[gorath23]

Pickup choice is really important to get 'that' sound as well. Am I right in saying Aaron uses a Telecaster Custom? Low output pickups with Alnico II/III/IV magnets coupled with a modern high-gain amp would get you in the ISIS territory I think, hence Aaron's usage of the VHT. I've got fairly doom-esque tones out of my Fireball by using a Telecaster with a neck Single Coil before. I think that modern amps are probably more versatile than I give them credit for....

 

[Amberience]

I have a Bareknuckle Nailbomb in the bridge setting of an Ibanez SA260FM. I've thought about getting a telecaster or a Les Paul, but that would probably be AFTER an amp purchase.

 

[Exocaster]

I'm more after an ISIS "Panopticon" sound

IIRC, that's a Mesa preamp (Formula?) through a solid-state power amp. For whatever that's worth. That album is ridiculously good.

 

[Amberience]

I love that album!

 

[Rupturemetal]

JCM 800

 

[greyskull]

IIRC, that's a Mesa preamp (Formula?) through a solid-state power amp. For whatever that's worth. That album is ridiculously good.

you do remember correctly.
i too fucking love that album

 

[colonel kurtz]

Am I right in saying Aaron uses a Telecaster Custom?

you're right on that one...i just went through some pics i took of them last november, and he was playing some sort of brown tele through his VST

i also made a thread a while back with close-up pics of their pedal boards, if anyone feels like digging it up

 

[Amberience]

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/equipment/381681-isis-live-effects.html

The other guitarists name is Michael Gallagher btw.

 

[colonel kurtz]

i'll remember that for future reference

i've been referring to him all this time as "the hippie looking one"

 

[Amberience]

http://www.hartnollguitars.co.uk/products.asp?id=3913

Would this be any good if I put it with a power amp??

 

[colonel kurtz]

maybe...i know that stef from the deftones uses 1 of those, but i doubt that's the type of tone you're going for

i'm sure there's a myriad of other sounds that can be coaxed from it as well. all in all, i think that any decent high-gain amp can be made to do the sludge/doom sort of thing...it's what's going on before the amp, i think, that makes the biggest difference