diabolical vengeance
The Most Ancient One
benjikong said:As far as the antisemitic Jew comment, the song "Black Sabbath" is a warning AGAINST satanism.
I fail to see the correlation between the two
benjikong said:As far as the antisemitic Jew comment, the song "Black Sabbath" is a warning AGAINST satanism.
benjikong said:I love Opeth!!! I even like Dimmu Borgir, CoB, CoF,and Old man's child. I like virtually all kinds of Metal, but i'm a member of the christian faith. I love metal music, and as long as your not killing people, or burning churches (two reasons I didn't add emperor to my list), I respect your beliefs. Are me and my friends the only ones who like christian metal, and non-christian metal???? Are we the only christian metal fans???
Anarkissed said:Such as...Just to name a few. Some of them are more hardcore punk/metalcore style.
- Living Sacrifice
- Mortification
- Underoath
- Embodyment (similar to Katatonia in a way, their old stuff is extremely heavy in comparison to their new stuff)
- Hopesfall
- Soul Embraced
- Alice Cooper (yeah, him)
- Norma Jean/Luti-kriss
- Zao
- Tourniquet
Moshing Kosher said:oh, and LiB: Frasier wins.
enigma_nocurnus said:What a shame that you would alienate yourself from experiencing one of the most uniquely creative, and inspiring metal bands of the last 10 years in EMPEROR!
Have you ever read Emperor lyrics, they are about bettering yourself by means of spiritual approach, and self expression. About having a voice of your own, and not having one forced on you.
See the thing is, when you're talking about Emperor you are basically talking about Ishan, and he actually had nothing to do with any of what went on with all the church burning bla bla.
It's just not important, the music is the only thing that's important and I truly feel sorry for you that you've chosen to pass up on(in my mind) the greatest creative mind in metal, and one of the best song structurers I've ever heard.
There is so much going on in an Emperor album(particularly the last 2) that you will keep learning things for months after the first listen. Something that's extremely rare in the constrictive and limmiting genre of metal.
In my mind Emperor pushed a hell of a lot of musical boundaries, and cemented a musical style all their own, a style that as far as I know no one has been good enough to replicate. And it's not as if a million substandard bands haven't tried.
What a shame that you have chosen not to listen to them because of stuff that went on when these people were like 17, just kids.... and the majority of that band were not involved in.
You are truly missing out.
ControlledChaos said:
Wrong. God created man as perfect and without sin, and it says God created man for fellowship with God. However, God basically (my paraphrase) didn't want a robot who would do exactly as he asked all the time, he wanted someone who would follow him through their own free will. So (here comes the review kids) he tells Adam and Eve, "You can have every frickin' thing in this garden, EVERY THING, except that one tree over there." God gave man free will to choose his own path, and once Adam and Eve ate the fruit of that tree (tree of the knowledge of good and evil) suddenly they knew what sin was and that's what started the whole thing.
God didn't try to "save" anyone by drowning them. It says that he sent the flood because basically all of mankind (albeit Noah and family) were incredibly wicked and basically beyond help, whereas Noah was righteous. (That doesn't mean he was sinless it means he followed God basically).
So, your argument is ignorant. Incorrect, pal.
pagan2002 said:you are stupid.
First off, that "joking jab"... Do you think God approves your mocking (and making light) of billions of people which he created and loves, going to hell?benjikong said:You want me to hate them. If I don't, you may realise that not all christians are intolerant . You don't want there to be christian metal, or christian metal fans, and I can't understand why. Is it because you don't wanna be lonely in Hell? Before you jump on me for that comment, understand that i've takin' a lot of crap from the non-christians on this board. It was just a joking jab. Get off my back. We're all Opeth fans here.
AndICried said:First off, that "joking jab"... Do you think God approves your mocking (and making light) of billions of people which he created and loves, going to hell?
Please don't make assumptions as to what I want/think: I don't believe in God and I don't believe that anyone should have faith in organised religion which is (obviously imo) such a corrupt system.
Do you follow the Bible? Or do choose parts of the bible which you agree with? Because I could understand that. Throughout the bible there are thousands of contradictions, some of which are not the authors' fault considering the length and time it was written over.
Could you state your personal beliefs of what makes you a Christian, and what you must or must not do? Otherwise I have to make assertations on your views through the bible, which I doubt you wholly agree with...
If you're willing, I'd like to learn more about your faith. When I was young, because my parents were Christian I just called myself one without thinking about it, so as you can imagine I do not know what it is like to be a "proper" Christian... How do you (and anyone else) define a "Christian"?
You read the post by enigma_nocurnus soyou can see that emperor's lyrics to an extent agree with your beliefs... By calling yourself a Christian people attach so many preconceptions to you. When someone asks "what do you believe in?", they wouldn't make as many assumptions about you. Saying "I'm a Christian" could mean a billion different things, whereas saying "I believe in God" is clear, and doesn't make people point out the thousands of contradictions in the bible.
(I'm sorry that this post is a poorly structured mess... )
benjikong said:. As for the correlation, Diabolical vengeance......you claiming it being hypocritical to like metal and be a christian is false because one of the leading metal acts (Black Sabbath), wrote an anti-satanic song. Plus, there are tons of Christian metal bands around.