Controversial opinions on metal

[CF87]

Do you guys like the song Ram it down?

Ram it Down(his throat).

 

[Krow]

Ram It Down and Point of Entry are both songs about Halford's butthole anyway.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Ram It Down and Point of Entry are both songs about Halford's butthole anyway.

Fuck man you got something against Halfords butthole? Fuckin triggered here!

 

[The Ozzman]

Venom > Trivium

Jumping on the bandwagon I see

 

[EspaDa]

Venom's overrated.

 

[CiG]

Not untrue. 99% of popular bands are massively overrated. It's in the nature of popularity.

Jumping on the bandwagon I see

The bandwagon of not liking crap bands?

 

[EternalMetal]

I dont even know where to start with the DsO vs Venom comparison. It's probably one of the more extreme 1st wave BM vs 2nd wave BM comparisons you could make. Venom is an infinitely more accessible, feel good black heavy metal, whereas DsO experiments with uncomfortable dissonance and grand song structures that require demanding attention (post-Inquisitors of Satan of course). It's like comparing Obituary to Immolation. I could probably throw Venom on at any given time and get into it, but with DsO I need to be in the mood to properly appreciate it. I could drink beers and party with friends while listening to Venom, but id prefer a dark room and headphones to fully get into a listening session with DsO. To make a car comparison, Venom is like drag racing a Mustang, and DsO is like appreciating the luxury of a Bentley. Call it pretentious if you like, but DsO has a complexity to their craft that Venom couldnt begin to compete with. Venom is more enjoyable, but I wouldnt call them better.

Imo, Fas is DsO's magnum opus. Paracletus is probably a really close second, but SMRC is simply too long for my taste and doesnt quite reach the musical heights of the other 2 releases in the trilogy. Inquisitors of Satan is just well done orthodox BM, so I dont consider it in the same category as the more fully realized DsO albums.

 

[CiG]

It is a pretty dumb comparison to be honest.

 

[EspaDa]

Let's compare Trivium and Judas Priest.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Lets think of bands who are actually worse than Trivium.

 

[Elric of Melniboné]

Lets think of bands who are actually worse than Trivium.

Insane Clown Posse and Limp Bizkit for starters.

 

[Vilden]

Lets think of bands who are actually worse than Trivium.

Kent.



...and DsO.

 

[CiG]

No way is Insane Clown Posse worse than Trivium.

 

[EspaDa]

Lets think of bands who are actually worse than Trivium.

Slipknot, Avenged Sevenfold.

 

[Phylactery]

Or even better, Hirilorn:

I definitely agree Hirilorn is better than DsO.

I find that SMRC has plenty of great moments scattered throughout but it's just too bloated and overly long. If they trimmed the excess then I might consider it a modern classic. As is, I think it's a good but flawed album.

Imo, Fas is DsO's magnum opus. Paracletus is probably a really close second, but SMRC is simply too long for my taste and doesnt quite reach the musical heights of the other 2 releases in the trilogy. Inquisitors of Satan is just well done orthodox BM, so I dont consider it in the same category as the more fully realized DsO albums.

It was a weird comparison, I agree. As pretentious as Crimsonflloyd comes across, I don't think you can argue that SMRC is more ambitious and has more depth than Venom. Obviously it's up to the listener to decide if they achieved that ambition or not.

Could you explain what you like about Fas...I listened to it a few times when it first came out and couldn't get into at all. It put me off checking out Paracletus.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Lets think of bands who are actually worse than Trivium.

Manilla Road, Virgin Steele, Emperor, Nokturnal Mortum...

 

[The Ozzman]

Lol at people deluding themselves into thinking ICP isn't the worst band on the planet

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Never really bothered to listen to them. I bet there's plenty of twee and contemporary indie "folk" that's worse.

 

[Krow]

Impossible when shit like Tank Genocide, Zarach 'Baal' Tharagh, and Enbilulugugal exist.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Pretty sure this is the worst music ever.