Controversial opinions on metal

[WCannibal]

I remember buying Black Gives Way to Blue a couple years ago and only listened to it once or twice because I thought it was really boring.

 

[JontRevolting]

The twins from Nifelheim are Iron Maiden elitists,not sure how well that serves them but there you go.

 

[Big D]

I'd define an "elitist" fan as someone who honestly cannot understand why you don't like (Band X) as much as he does.
You know the sort of thing I mean: he sees your patch jacket and demands to you why you haven't got a Slayer/Metallica/whoever patch. "Because they're not one of my favourite bands" tends to upset him.
Met a few of those. Rather not meet any more, thanks.

 

[divine_torture]

Hellhammer bores me. There, I said it. I love Celtic Frost, and I enjoy Hellhammer in a song or two at a time dosage, but otherwise it's just flat ass boring.

 

[JontRevolting]

The thought just occurred to me that i'd really like it if bands started mixing genres on albums.I'm talking about the more talented and knowledgeable bands within the black/death scene.I'd love to hear a band capable of releasing an album where one track sounds like death and the next is more akin to black but somehow still retain their own identity.I think bands tend to get lazy releasing albums that are all within the one genre.It's probably a stupid idea but I don't see why bands can't push themselves more in regards to writing great stuff in different genres if the song or idea calls for it.Instead of releasing an album that stays within a certain genre with a handful of shitty songs and only a few great tracks.

 

[Umodian]

Hellhammer bores me. There, I said it. I love Celtic Frost, and I enjoy Hellhammer in a song or two at a time dosage, but otherwise it's just flat ass boring.

Would have to agree.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

The thought just occurred to me that i'd really like it if bands started mixing genres on albums.I'm talking about the more talented and knowledgeable bands within the black/death scene.I'd love to hear a band capable of releasing an album where one track sounds like death and the next is more akin to black but somehow still retain their own identity.I think bands tend to get lazy releasing albums that are all within the one genre.It's probably a stupid idea but I don't see why bands can't push themselves more in regards to writing great stuff in different genres if the song or idea calls for it.Instead of releasing an album that stays within a certain genre with a handful of shitty songs and only a few great tracks.

You only think you want to hear bands try that. If you had an actual album that randomly whizzed you back and forth through different styles on a track by track basis, you'd listen to it three times, declare it to be genius because that's what is socially expected of you, then never listen to it again. You know, just like everyone who claims to like Lykathea Aflame did with Elvenfris.

 

[JontRevolting]

What the fuck are you talking about??

 

[Vossyrus]

One of the reasons why I really enjoy Akercocke is because they mix it up so well, blending together different styles of music and ideas to form something that is very cohesive and of an apt and seemingly spontaneous nature.

 

[Panzer Meyer]

What the fuck are you talking about??

You've never been tricked into listening to Elvenfris? Consider yourself a lucky man.

 

[JontRevolting]

You only think you want to hear bands try that. If you had an actual album that randomly whizzed you back and forth through different styles on a track by track basis, you'd listen to it three times, declare it to be genius because that's what is socially expected of you, then never listen to it again. You know, just like everyone who claims to like Lykathea Aflame did with Elvenfris.

I think I get what you're saying...but surely in this day and age there are those that could pull this off...never even heard Lykathea Aflame,maybe I should but i'm more talking about satanic death/black metal bands.And the fact that they should be able to make it both excellent and memorable.

 

[Vossyrus]

You only think you want to hear bands try that. If you had an actual album that randomly whizzed you back and forth through different styles on a track by track basis, you'd listen to it three times, declare it to be genius because that's what is socially expected of you, then never listen to it again. You know, just like everyone who claims to like Lykathea Aflame did with Elvenfris.

u be mad trollin' dog

 

[HamburgerBoy]

One of the reasons why I really enjoy Akercocke is because they mix it up so well, blending together different styles of music and ideas to form something that is very cohesive and of an apt and seemingly spontaneous nature.

Verdelet is one of my favorite songs for this reason. Unfortunate that the rest of the album doesn't hold up.

 

[Vossyrus]

I really like that album. I think it may very well be the best of their career, and in my opinion it was certainly a strong contender for album of the year when it came out.

 

[JontRevolting]

Akercocke are an excellent example of what I was talking about,probably the best I can think of.It's a wonder more bands have'nt atleast given it a shot.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

u be mad trollin' dog

No, he's right in this case. An album that drifted from genre to genre would sound more like a compilation than a cohesive work. I can guarantee that you might listen to the individual tracks fairly regularly but you'd almost never listen to the whole thing in one go. There's a reason split albums tend to pick bands of the same ilk rather than slapping a drone band next to grindcore.

 

[JontRevolting]

Again...the discussion is refering to black/OSDM bands whose subject matter is similar.I'd like to hear a band who're confident/competant enough to pull this off and I don't believe that it's outt've question.

 

[Thralldom]

In response to an earlier post, Hellhammer is awesome.

 

[SomeGuyDude]

Again...the discussion is refering to black/OSDM bands whose subject matter is similar.I'd like to hear a band who're confident/competant enough to pull this off and I don't believe that it's outt've question.

This is all theoretical though. Like, do you have any inklings of how it would go together? Examples you can cite of SOMEWHAT the right idea? Just saying "I wanna hear a band that doesn't stick to one style but still keeps it cohesive" is supremely vague. It's like saying "I want to hear a brutal death metal band with spoken word poetry about flowers". Okay, great, but uh...

 

[JontRevolting]

None whatsoever...but it's not that hard,surely....a competant band that is well versed in these gemres should be able to come up with something...alot have hinted at it.Fuck change up the guitar tone,do whatever....