Controversial opinions on metal

[no country for old wainds]

don't burn the motherfucking witch 4eva

 

[Phylactery]

I'm a big fan of Welcome to Hell and Black Metal but I've not bothered with much else from Venom.

Not sure if this is controversial, but I think Suffocation's best work is the Human Waste EP. It has a much dirtier production than the rest of their stuff, which I usually look for in death metal. I can still appreciate Effigy of the Forgotten and Pierced From Within, but I rarely, if ever listen to them.

 

[Omni]

At War with Satan is a good album. They clearly became much less consistent after that one. I would stick to the first three.

 

[Phylactery]

That's a strange album for wanting Judas Priest to reproduce. I like Defenders of the Faith quite a bit, I think it's one of their most consistent post-70s albums. It's nowhere near the quality of Sad Wings of Destiny, Sin After Sin or Stained Class, though.

 

[Phylactery]

That's certainly controversial, not sure how many people here will agree with you.

I agree they never returned to the absolutely legendary level of Black Metal, At War With Satan, and Welcome to Hell, but they certainly had plenty of good stuff beyond that. I don't expect them to return to how good they did with the first three anyways, that's like expecting Judas Priest to produce another Defenders of The Faith. I wouldn't deprive yourself of so much good music by restricting your listening to simply Venom's first three releases though. That's like only listening to the first four Danzig albums and then ignoring stuff like Deth Red Saboath.

It's called quality control. If what Omni is saying about their later albums being less consistent is true, then I'd rather not be sifting through them to find which tracks are worthwhile. There are too many consistently good/great albums to be listening to or finding to bother with this imo. Although at some point I will check them out to see if I'm missing anything.

 

[Omni]

I agree they never returned to the absolutely legendary level of Black Metal, At War With Satan, and Welcome to Hell, but they certainly had plenty of good stuff beyond that. I don't expect them to return to how good they did with the first three anyways, that's like expecting Judas Priest to produce another Defenders of The Faith. I wouldn't deprive yourself of so much good music by restricting your listening to simply Venom's first three releases though. That's like only listening to the first four Danzig albums and then ignoring stuff like Deth Red Saboath.

This makes it sound like Defenders of the Faith is the height of Judas Priest. That's just wrong.

 

[Krow]

First half of Defenders is cool. Second half makes me want to listen to Painkiller instead, which is my favorite post 70s album by far.

 

[rms]

I feel that H.P.'s avatar is too similar to Mutantllama's and he must change it

 

[no country for old wainds]

'the sentinel' and mayyybe 'jawbreaker' are the only songs on that album that approach their '70s material in quality for me. i do like most of it though (obviously the finale is garbage).

 

[suckerleaf]

I agree they never returned to the absolutely legendary level of Black Metal, At War With Satan, and Welcome to Hell, but they certainly had plenty of good stuff beyond that. I don't expect them to return to how good they did with the first three anyways, that's like expecting Judas Priest to produce another Defenders of The Faith. I wouldn't deprive yourself of so much good music by restricting your listening to simply Venom's first three releases though. That's like only listening to the first four Danzig albums and then ignoring stuff like Deth Red Saboath.

Damn , there's someone elseout there that likes Deth Red Saboath?!

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

I just came across a band listed under the genre "powerviolence." What the fuck is that supposed to mean?

 

[suckerleaf]

That's me. Danzig's finest since 4 in my opinion.

I agree.

 

[EternalMetal]

Screaming for Vengeance is Judas Priest's vision of heavy metal fully realized, and probably my favorite of theirs despite huge love for Stained Class and Sad Wings. Defenders was like the b-sides of that effort, though there were some good songs here and there.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Screaming for Vengeance is Judas Priest's vision of heavy metal fully realized, and probably my favorite of theirs despite huge love for Stained Class and Sad Wings. Defenders was like the b-sides of that effort, though there were some good songs here and there.

Fully agree with all of this.

 

[suckerleaf]

Twisted Sister are a great band.

Maybe not so much anymore but Under the Blade, You Can't Stop Rock n Roll and Stay Hungry are stone cold classics.

 

[CiG]

I'm a big fan of Welcome to Hell and Black Metal but I've not bothered with much else from Venom.

Not sure if this is controversial, but I think Suffocation's best work is the Human Waste EP. It has a much dirtier production than the rest of their stuff, which I usually look for in death metal. I can still appreciate Effigy of the Forgotten and Pierced From Within, but I rarely, if ever listen to them.

Personally my favourite Venom album is At War With Satan.
Possessed is okay too.

 

[alex76]

I like Venom, but I have actually heard more covers of their work by other bands that I like than their original songs.

 

[RedStorm]

Venoms not too good.

 

[CiG]

Not many bands can compete with their first four albums, plus legendary non-album tracks like "Acid Queen" and "Warhead."

Yeah, not too good at all.

 

[Satanstoenail]

They could barely play. Abaddon was like the worst drummer ever. First three are definitely classic though. They were absolutely the most evil thing I'd ever been exposed to when I was about 13.