Controversial opinions on metal

[The Ozzman]

Is there decent grindcore beyond Napalm Death and Terrorizer?

I'm fine with that, I was trying to be non-confrontational because if I lumped all black metal together it would have come out much lower. If you want a more thorough breakdown...

Trad metal = trad/power metal = epic doom metal = trad doom metal = speed metal = trad/power metal that is progressive
Euro-power proper = first-wave black metal = Bay Area thrash = death/thrash = OSDM (and all tech variants thereof)
Groove metal = thrashy Gothernburg melodeath = overtly melodic Gothenburg melodeath = Gothenburg-derived metalcore = crossover thrash
Stoner doom = NYHC-derived metalcore
Second-wave Norwegian black metal proper
The average pre-Dream Theater prog metal
The average post-Dream Theater prog metal
Funeral doom, plus probably other shit I don't care about that I'm forgetting
Alternative metal = nu metal
Stoner rock = grunge = hard rock
Goth metal = folk metal = symphonic black metal
Metalcore that isn't remotely metal
Depressive suicidal black metal
Black ambient

I don't usually use the term 'autism' or 'autist', but damn does that post fit the bill

 

[ProphetofHatred]

Is there decent grindcore beyond Napalm Death and Terrorizer?

Assuck. The Kill. Repulsion. Captain Cleanoff. Gadget. Nasum. Rotting Sound. Lock Up. Trap Them. Dead in The Dirt. Pig Destroyer. Discordance Axis. Insect Warfare. Death Toll 80K. P.LF. Some decent bands around.

 

[The Ozzman]

Assuck. The Kill. Repulsion. Captain Cleanoff. Gadget. Nasum. Rotting Sound. Lock Up. Trap Them. Dead in The Dirt. Pig Destroyer. Discordance Axis. Insect Warfare. Death Toll 80K. P.LF. Some decent bands around.

Thanks. I honestly haven't explored the genre but I'll check some of that out.

 

[Krow]

Some "grindcore" is definitely fucking metal.... Usually extremely close to death metal if it is.

 

[CiG]

Deathgrind is a good example.

 

[ProphetofHatred]

Yeah lots of grindcore bands are heavily influenced by death metal but you can have grindcore without much real death metal influence. Some grind bands go with the screaming vocals and sound nothing like death metal, and some bands go the Napalm Death / deathgrind thing.

 

[EspaDa]

Is there decent grindcore beyond Napalm Death and Terrorizer?



I don't usually use the term 'autism' or 'autist', but damn does that post fit the bill

Nasum, Cattle Decapitation, Rotten Sound, Magrudergrind. Great bands.

 

[Burzum_Maiden]

I think I would say grindcore is influenced by death metal and thrash metal, but isn't metal. I would say deathgrind is more based upon a metal background, therefore it could be seen as the metal variant of grindcore. But it's open to interpretation.

 

[CF87]

Heaviness,tones,etc... is subjective. Not any different then music being subjective. And someone thinks Dimebag can play guitar better than Akerfeldt or vice versa,etc.. Ofcourse opinions give people things to talk about and discuss. So forever it will be a stinky asshole. I don't care who you are, you are going to hell.

 

[ProphetofHatred]

I think I would say grindcore is influenced by death metal and thrash metal, but isn't metal. I would say deathgrind is more based upon a metal background, therefore it could be seen as the metal variant of grindcore. But it's open to interpretation.

Napalm Death came out right after Death (Scream Bloody Gore at least), is it safe to say they were more influenced by hardcore punk?

 

[ProphetofHatred]

I don't care who you are, you are going to hell.

Hell doesn't exist but I welcome the fire. I could use a pube trim but I'm too lazy to do it myself, I'm sure the hellfire will burn my pubes in a jiffy.

 

[Burzum_Maiden]

Napalm Death came out right after Death (Scream Bloody Gore at least), is it safe to say they were more influenced by hardcore punk?

Napalm Death have admitted that they were more influenced by hardcore punk than metal, and it is apparent in not just the music but also their lyrics. They were definitely influenced by bands like Celtic Frost, Bathory, Slayer etc. but they seemed to find more in common with bands like Discharge and D.R.I, as well as post-punk bands such as Killing Joke and Joy Division. It really was a little bit of everything I guess.

 

[Phylactery]

Is there decent grindcore beyond Napalm Death and Terrorizer?

Repulsion - Horrified

 

[Burzum_Maiden]

Is there decent grindcore beyond Napalm Death and Terrorizer?

I think Carcass are great. Production is awful but if you can get past that, it's some of the most disgusting music you'll ever hear.

 

[Omni]

Early Swans was apparently a major influence on Napalm Death too. I have always found that funny because of how slow early Swans is compared to most music.

 

[Burzum_Maiden]

Early Swans was apparently a major influence on Napalm Death too. I have always found that funny because of how slow early Swans is compared to most music.

Doesn't shock me that much, considering they listened to Sonic Youth, The Pixies, Joy Division and stuff like that. Swans makes a bit more sense actually because early Swans was pretty noisy (that's quite and understatement).

 

[Jimboduggin]

this is grind core, this is punk rock influenced by metal... metal influenced by punk.. whatever, t's all awesome

 

[CiG]

I think Carcass are great. Production is awful but if you can get past that, it's some of the most disgusting music you'll ever hear.

Symphonies Of Sickness has the perfect production for it's sound. It's a masterpiece.

 

[CF87]

Hell doesn't exist but I welcome the fire. I could use a pube trim but I'm too lazy to do it myself, I'm sure the hellfire will burn my pubes in a jiffy.

One day you'll be standing in hell. Joel Osteen will be there and someone will beat his ass everyday. It can't be that bad of a place.

 

[Burzum_Maiden]

Symphonies Of Sickness has the perfect production for it's sound. It's a masterpiece.

This is true. But it must be said that it's still likely to make you want to pull out your own anal tract and then eat it (but in a good way). Only a metal head would describe that and then add "in a good way" at the end. Anyways, better production but still putrid stuff.