Controversial opinions on metal

[MrTagoMago]

This place dies at the weirdest times.

 

[rusty water]

This place dies at the weirdest times.

I cant reply to most of the posts as I have never heard of the bands you are talking about, so I sit eating an Apple and doing quick researches.

 

[MrTagoMago]

I cant reply to most of the posts as I have never heard of the bands you are talking about, so I sit eating an Apple and doing quick researches.

Do you know Gentle Giant and Van Der Graaf Generator?

 

[rusty water]

Yeah I have watched a few videos of Gentle Giant the last month and am familiar with Van Der Graaf Generator (ish ). Thinking about it, I dont really know much about them, apart from a few songs.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Yeah I have watched a few videos of Gentle Giant the last month and am familiar with Van Der Graaf Generator (ish ). Thinking about it, I dont really know much about them, apart from a few songs.

Both are really good. More underrated prog bands. Gentle Giant was very consistent those first 7 albums.

 

[rusty water]

Each member of Gentle giant, if I remember correctly, played multi-instruments. They also were quirky, with barber shop quintet parts in songs and flutes. I thought the lead singer was an unlikely looking one, however he was very capable. I remember hearing about them back in the day and many prog rock fans speak highly of them.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Each member of Gentle giant, if I remember correctly, played multi-instruments. They also were quirky, with barber shop quintet parts in songs and flutes. I thought the lead singer was an unlikely looking one, however he was very capable. I remember hearing about them back in the day and many prog rock fans speak highly of them.

Yeah talented bunch who can play multiple instruments and known for being more complex than most prog bands at the time.

 

[rusty water]

Yep, when you get bands such as that, that have no musical boundaries, that is where creativity is very productive. Also it makes for honest music, they dont chase money so much, just musical invention.

 

[MrTagoMago]

Yep, when you get bands such as that, that have no musical boundaries, that is where creativity is very productive. Also it makes for honest music, they dont chase money so much, just musical invention.

That's why I love the krautrock scene so much.

 

[Phylactery]

This place dies at the weirdest times.

This thread had little activity until you joined, from since I've been here anyway. You're keeping it alive!

But yeah, this forum doesn't have that many posters and moves slowly at times. That was the reason I joined, though. I prefer a smallish group of posters that I can get to know. I've enjoyed my time here so far and I like all of the posters that frequent the board.

 

[MrTagoMago]

This thread had little activity until you joined, from since I've been here anyway. You're keeping it alive!

But yeah, this forum doesn't have that many posters and moves slowly at times. That was the reason I joined, though. I prefer a smallish group of posters that I can get to know. I've enjoyed my time here so far and I like all of the posters that frequent the board.

I have a hard time generally remembering who is who and who said what lol. I can get frustrated but I'm not the type who really takes anything personally and holds a grudge. It is upsetting though to be told to continue listening to a band or album I don't like until I eventually get it what makes it so great.

 

[Internally Deformed]

It is upsetting though to be told to continue listening to a band or album I don't like until I eventually get it what makes it so great.

When you say legendary bands suck that is probably what will happen tho.

 

[The Ozzman]

When you say legendary bands suck that is probably what will happen tho.

That's what this thread is about

 

[Internally Deformed]

The flow diagram for this thread:

1.) User posts controversial opinion.

2.) Response:

a) Opinion is not controversial.

b) Opinion is wrong - re-listen to artist/album until a)

 

[The Ozzman]

c) Opinons are never facts

 

[Internally Deformed]

c) Opinons are never facts

Except when they are - e.g. it is my opinion that an oak tree is a type of plant.

Subjectivity is overrated.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

That's a belief, not an opinion.

 

[The Ozzman]

Except when they are - e.g. it is my opinion that an oak tree is a type of plant.

There's objective evidence for that. There's no objective evidence that Bathory > Burzum or whatever

 

[MrTagoMago]

There's objective evidence for that. There's no objective evidence that Bathory > Burzum or whatever

While that is true I heavily agree with that opinion.

 

[Internally Deformed]

To get all boring and semantic, opinions are not necessarily based on facts or empirical knowledge, but they aren't necessarily limited to things that can't be proven.

As to "opinions" as applied to music, it isn't coincidental that everyone immediately got pissed off with @The Ozzman about the "all Bathory albums sound the same" comment - it wasn't just down to subjective perception, there are actually objective distinctions inherent in the albums themselves. The difference in opinion arises from most people being able to detect them and some (i.e. you) not being able to - whether or not you do or don't perceive them doesn't actually alter the music as it exists in its physical form.