Controversial opinions on metal

how one doesn't get bored of battle cry by spin 30 blows my mind. very surprised a good album gets that kind of attention

Battle Cry is better than anything by Manilla Road. :whistle:

Cirith Ungol is also better than Manilla Road. I wonder how controversial that is around here.
 
It's also vastly inferior to the three albums preceding it and inferior to Screaming, Defenders and Painkiller.

Hell Bent is definitely weaker than British Steel. Both are Priest at their most simplistic, but Hell Bent's only advantage is Les Binks. Take on the World is no better than United (easily British Steel's weakest link) and as far as the metallic fillers go, Steeler is still better than Running Wild. Leather's poppier material like Rock Forever sounds pretty hokey compared to something like Living After Midnight as well. And nothing on the album can beat The Rage.

Defenders' B-side is the second weakest side in the entire pre-Jugulator Priest discography, better than only Ram it Down's B-side.

Pretty much this. Battle Cry is better than every Maiden album except for the debut and its better than every Priest album. "Good albums" are not the strong points for either of those two bands since just about every one of their works is littered with fillers.

I honestly cant. British Steel is a fucking borefest while the latter is true greatness. You're just a casual pleb is all

At least a third of Battle Cry is pretty redundant. The "fillers" are still pretty damn good, but Maiden's least inspired moments of the first half of the 80s are still better than 90% of most metal.

how one doesn't get bored of battle cry by spin 30 blows my mind. very surprised a good album gets that kind of attention

Spin 30 is probably about right. I still listen to it once or twice a year but only three to five songs still give me chills of glory, the rest is just dependable speed/USPM. TechBarb probably hasn't listened to the album very much.
 
Defenders' B-side is the second weakest side in the entire pre-Jugulator Priest discography, better than only Ram it Down's B-side.

Actually I think it's been too long, for some reason I had Come and Get It and I'm a Rocker flipped in my head. Blood Red Skies and I'm a Rocker put it at least on par with Defenders', even though Love You to Death/Monsters of Rock is the worst two-fer in their discography.

Defenders is really overrated. Rock Hard and The Sentinel are perfect, yes, Freewheel Burning is a really good speed metal song (though still beaten by a dozen others in their discography), and Love Bites is kind of interesting in how stripped-down and poppy it is, almost like Priest going Prince or something. Other than that, ranges from decent to garbage.
 
How can a band with two legitimate great albums contend with one that made 8? The hell is wrong with you people.

Cirith Ungol peaks way higher than Manilla Road. I'd even say that half of the stuff on Paradise Lost is better than anything on any Manilla Road album. Crystal Logic or whatever you think is the best Manilla Road album pales in comparison to King of the Dead or even Frost and Fire.

If they actually record it, their reunion album will probably also be better than recent Manilla Road albums because they haven't been pressured to put an album out every year or whatever Mark is doing nowadays and they still have a sizeable amount of old material to draw from for an album.
 
HBB loves Battle Cry as far as I know.

He gave it a 4/5 iirc. Are we redefining love now? Sure it's a nice high rating and all, but I think you're stretching his feelings towards the album further than a 4/5 can go.

Battle Cry is better than anything by Manilla Road. :whistle:

Cirith Ungol is also better than Manilla Road. I wonder how controversial that is around here.

Manilla Road > Cirith Ungol > first two Omen albums