Controversial opinions on metal

[HamburgerBoy]

I’ve discussed this before but not in this thread:

Black metal is unfairly maligned for being too derivative compared to other genres of metal. The amount of times I’ve heard/read “this is a boring Darkthrone/Burzum clone” or something that effect is a lot.

Also lots of comments of it having the largest amount of crap of any sub genre that seem to be arbitrary and backed up with little evidence.

Nah it gets about the right level of criticism. Pretty much every metal genre is derivative by definition though since they're all defined by usage of a relatively narrow palette of riffs.

 

[CiG]

Last year I also gladly gave my money to Fatherland.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yeah but you're white

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

I think it's alright to support NSBM acts, as long as you pay them in shekels.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Nazis hated Jews, not Jew gold

 

[Serjeant Grumbles]

They liked stealing Jew gold, not engaging in fair commerce with them.

 

[CiG]

Yeah but you're white

And?

 

[Omni]

I believe that the implication is that all white people are racist, so of course you would be okay with that.

 

[CiG]

Well in high school I did form a band with other neighborhood aboriginals called The Noongar Nazis so I'm obviously an Aryan true son of the Reich.

 

[DisconnectedFromReality]

Heil Hitler my fellow aryan brother. Does your HIGH IQ Caucasian brain know where the nearest facility for wealth withdrawal is?

 

[J.]

I drive and blast NeChrist while basking in the myth of my white privilege whilst my two blonde hair, blue eyed kids sit in the back of my Honda

 

[Phylactery]

How is white privilege a myth? Do you also deny male privilege?

 

[DisconnectedFromReality]

How is white privilege a myth? Do you also deny male privilege?

1/10 bait, try harder.

 

[Phylactery]

It’s difficult to tell if his post was entirely joking or not.

There are people that deny both. Or, more probable is that those who deny it are just being incredibly disingenuous. Or even perhaps are just so far removed from reality they don’t see it.

 

[Dazed and Brutal]

uh oh.

 

[DisconnectedFromReality]

It’s difficult to tell if his post was entirely joking or not.

There are people that deny both. Or, more probable is that those who deny it are just being incredibly disingenuous. Or even perhaps are just so far removed from reality they don’t see it.

ok now you're definitely joking, nice try.

 

[Phylactery]

I’m not crying about it. Just think it’s pretty ridiculous to deny its existence.

 

[DisconnectedFromReality]

I’m not crying about it. Just think it’s pretty ridiculous to deny its existence.

I refuse to believe this man is not joking, therefore I won't even entertain the thought this was serious.

 

[CiG]

The whole privilege suffix thing is too amorphous to really have any true meaning.

On one hand people say whites and men have privilege and in some ways it is blatantly true (in a majority white country why wouldn't whites have some kind of privilege? Pretty sure there would be Asian privilege in an Asian country if they had as many Asians and non-Asians living together as we do non-whites and whites, the norm or the majority in any place has the privilege of being the norm) and males might have some kind of privilege of physicality over women, but then you have the privilege claims coming from bourgeois middle-to-upper class idiots that completely overlook the fact that minorities and women in the west have the privilege of being literally systemically discriminated in favour of via quotas and affirmative action types of policies that are by their nature therefore negatively discriminating against whites and males lmao.

The hypocrisy is astounding. Then you have the obsession with identity sectarianism on the so-called left by people who don't actually understand how the majority of people (working class people) actually exist in society. White privilege and male privilege are so wide in their attempt to have meaning that they basically become meaningless political platitudes that don't actually apply to anybody's lived experiences beyond higher education teaching staff or corporate boardrooms.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Whites do have some degree of privilege; if a security guard is watching two people enter a store, one black and one white, statistically the black person is more likely to commit theft, and therefore the black person is also going to be viewed suspiciously and potentially made to go through hoops that a white person does not. This means that a non-criminal black person has an automatic stigma hanging over him because he happens to belong to an ethnic group that is statistically more criminal. Blacks living in black areas are required to deal with store items and cashiers behind security glass, with cops more on-edge because of a higher incidence of gun violence, etc. The problem with the concept of white privilege is that it isn't an unfair creation granted to whites due to whites, it's that it's an unfair stigma placed upon blacks due to blacks. White privilege over Asians in America, for example, is significantly reduced.