Controversial opinions on metal

[Kara-Shehr]

Who?

Some shit band, don't worry about it not worth your time trust me.

 

[gundamterran]

Starkweather is a kinda of fucked up "metalcore" band, but in the old school sense of metalcore, where it has an extremely abrasive and heavy sound. Doesn't rely on breakdowns, no gay emo clean vocals, etc. Their a good band.

 

[Karmablade]

Start with the dark majestic adventure of Beyond Sanctorum:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O176hufoFq8

And don't listen through it once, that doesn't put you in a position to judge shit, believe me. Listen through the album ten times.

now this is 10 times better than the other song i heard with them, like a different band, great stuff, thanks

 

[WCannibal]

Start with the dark majestic adventure of Beyond Sanctorum:

Of Darkness is better imo.

 

[VelociBrad]

Of Darkness is better imo.

agreed. but both albums are great.

 

[Karmablade]

why? Not catchy enough for you?

exactly

 

[CF87]

Like An Everflowing Steam is a great album, but other than that Dismember sucks. Left Hand Path is better.

 

[Kara-Shehr]

exactly

If you could push your taste in music beyond "whatever is catchy" and realize not every song is meant to be "rocked out to". A whole new world would open up to you. Some songs need to be absorbed and contemplated on, don't just listen to something once and say "Oh they suck its boring".

 

[CF87]

Rest In Festering Slime... Karmablade, you Gay Fuck.

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

Like An Everflowing Steam is a great album, but other than that Dismember sucks. Left Hand Path is better.

almost everything Dismember has made is fucking awesome (including their Carnage album), probably the most consistent Swedish death metal band.... while Entombed on the other hand made only one good album....

and anyway, Like An Ever Flowing Stream and Indecent and Obscene > anything Entombed has ever done.

 

[Karmablade]

If you could push your taste in music beyond "whatever is catchy" and realize not every song is meant to be "rocked out to". A whole new world would open up to you. Some songs need to be absorbed and contemplated on, don't just listen to something once and say "Oh they suck its boring".

as i said before if a song doesnt have catchy, quality emotional aggressive songwriting then its not good, example of quality:

early sepultura, morbid angel, nile, behemoth, old metallica, old slayer etc

 

[Inso]

There is plenty of fantastic metal which is not catchy at all, it is but one aspect of good songwriting. Quality for me is a careful balance which combines memorable riffs with variation and complexity so it remains interesting in the long term. Overly 'catchy' stuff can become dull after a while, although this is not always the case. The point is saying a song has to have 'catchy, emotionally aggressive songwriting' to be good is completely false and shows a lack of appreciation for the more subtle aspects of metal and music in general.

 

[The Ozzman]

Nothing Nile did can be considered quality

 

[Eligos]

And Behemoth is pushing it.

 

[CF87]

Nile suck.

 

[VelociBrad]

Nile and Behemoth suck.

 

[CF87]

The Nile River can eat me. fuck it

Send Nile down the nile in a boat with a big hole in the bottom, they can sink and drown!. fuck mummies

 

[Karmablade]

There is plenty of fantastic metal which is not catchy at all, it is but one aspect of good songwriting. Quality for me is a careful balance which combines memorable riffs with variation and complexity so it remains interesting in the long term. Overly 'catchy' stuff can become dull after a while, although this is not always the case. The point is saying a song has to have 'catchy, emotionally aggressive songwriting' to be good is completely false and shows a lack of appreciation for the more subtle aspects of metal and music in general.

you just said its not catchy but has memorable riffs? memorable riffs is what i call catchy because it CATCHES,ive told you examples of quality catchy bands as early slayer, sepultura, metallica and they all are very succesful and the reason they are is because of that.

Nothing Nile did can be considered quality

you dont know what quality means.

And Behemoth is pushing it.

come on, behemoth has some awesome stuff, zos kia cultus for example, very good album.

Nile and Behemoth suck.

and you are supposed to like death metal...shame on you

 

[CF87]

You don't know what quality of the water is in The Nile River.

 

[Eligos]

come on, behemoth has some awesome stuff, zos kia cultus for example, very good album.

Behemoth is definitely not awesome. They are not dark, epic, original, heavy, brutal, or expressive enough to be considered "awesome". If metal were a town hall meeting, Behemoth would be the guy in the front agreeing with the speakers. Everyone notices him but he has nothing significant to say.

At their very best, their moment of utmost climax, Behemoth is okay. They are listenable.