Cradle of Filth

VadimVon said:
I'm not gonna be the disrespectful prick to offend you with a brash statement like a few of these assholes, for everyone is entitled to an opinion. However, my friend, you must be absolutely insane to rate Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk with such disregard - it is a true black metal masterpiece. The only reason I'm even concerning myself with a response to your thread is the fact that you must appreciate good musicianship - Pastorius was a true bass genius. There are things on Welkin that are hiding inside the mix, and maybe you need a couple of more listens before you disregard this album.
As for Cradle of Filth, I do not even understand how anyone would consider this band to be black metal. They may have been close to black metal around the time of Principle, may have recorded a couple of decently produced albums like Dusk and Cruelty, even wore leather and facepaint, but Cradle of Filth is still a revolving door of decent hired musicians led by a guy who will never in a million years earn the respect of the underground metal community no matter how much he may think of himself. Dani "Filth" doesn't know how to play a single musical instrument, cannot maintain a lineup for the fact of being a little self-centered prick (and I've actually encountered this), and, though having a skilled educated command of English language and grammar due to his parents being wealthy and putting him through a number of tight-assed schooling institutions, he does not seem to have come up with a single original concept besides the redundant Bram Stokerisms throughout his entire career. I can't believe the way that little poser did Stuart and Nick, the two guys responsible for Dusk and Cruelty being a couple of decent musical efforts. And that is why this "band" simply loses more and more direction with every new album since then, because for a number of years now COF has been just a company ran by a whiny little brat from a rich family name who at this point just wants to be Marilyn Manson.
...Why couldn't Dani get shot instead of Dime?

Wow. I actually agree with most of what you say here. It's exactly because of the revolving door line-up that Cradle has lost so much ground. Had they kept Robin, Gian, Stuart, Lector and Nick they would most likely still be excellent.
 
Thoth-Amon said:
Wrong. Anthems is excellent.

i like the atmosphere on that album but found the later to more interesting to listen to if not necessarily better. immortal>emperor..just felt like throwing that in.
 
Cof are good-ish, i.m.o.

I can see where the hate comes from, but the bottom line for me is that the music and lyrics rule.

On Judge Dredd: The film was the single WORST adaptation of a comic book ever, pending the Watchmen film ever being made.
 
Dani sings like a bird but looks like a catfish.... somethings not right.

Dani 'birdfish' filth.