Cradle of Filth

Cradle of Dildo's does not sound symphonic. Dimmu Borgir,Emeperor are symphonic.
 
Cythraul said:
You're a fucking moron. The riffs on Anthems employ most of the distinctive riffing techniques that black metal is known for. If you think the riffs on Anthems sound similar to Zyklon riffs then that makes Zyklon more of a black metal band than you would acknowledge. Anthems lacks the relevant features attributable to death metal that make it possible to distinguish dm from bm. You're just a fucking idiot and you don't understand music.

Because the distinction is really important. ;)
 
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Cythraul said:
You're a fucking moron. The riffs on Anthems employ most of the distinctive riffing techniques that black metal is known for. If you think the riffs on Anthems sound similar to Zyklon riffs then that makes Zyklon more of a black metal band than you would acknowledge. Anthems lacks the relevant features attributable to death metal that make it possible to distinguish dm from bm. You're just a fucking idiot and you don't understand music.

Hahahaha, you realise that the vast majority of professional music theory teachers, lecturers, composers...Basically anybody with a really good knowledge of music would not know this either. Do they not understand music for this reason too?:err:

Oh and to the person who stated that CoF have terrible guitarwork, they far surpass atleast 80% of TRUE black metal guitarists.
 
Look I don't know what you guys are talking about but Cythraul's right about music 99.9999999999 x 10^99999999999 percent of the time so like give up other guy before you hurt yourself.
 
Pull The Plug said:
Hahahaha, you realise that the vast majority of professional music theory teachers, lecturers, composers...Basically anybody with a really good knowledge of music would not know this either. Do they not understand music for this reason too?:err:

Ugh. Do you realize that I was arguing with somebody who is extremely familiar with Emperor's music and who presumably is familiar with death metal and bm in general? You would think that a professional music theory teacher and blah blah blah, wouldn't know anything about dm and bm because they probably haven't even heard much underground metal. Now what if they were familiar with bm and dm? In that case, if they had any understanding of music, they would be able to tell there's very little in common between riffs on Anthems and dm riffing style in general.
 
The point is they DO NOT. We are not taking a "what if they were?" the truth is most dont know.

Saying someone doesn't know music just for not being able to distinguish riffing styles between death and black metal is just being an elitist wanker. I'm tired of this superiority bullshit.
 
The Greys said:
Cradle of Dildo's does not sound symphonic. Dimmu Borgir,Emeperor are symphonic.
Only if you define "symphonic" as having a massive keyboard overlay.
I personally define "symphonic" as an incorporation of existing instruments into a self-complimenting aural essay, and Emperor were good at that. Dimmu Borgir's catalog, in my opinion, is a rather two-dimensional collection of stale unimaginative guitar riffs buttered over thick with some keys. Sorry man, just an opinion.:zombie:
 
Pull The Plug said:
The point is they DO NOT. We are not taking a "what if they were?" the truth is most dont know.

Saying someone doesn't know music just for not being able to distinguish riffing styles between death and black metal is just being an elitist wanker. I'm tired of this superiority bullshit.

Please read my previous post AGAIN!!! If someone is trying to speak authoritatively about death and black metal then I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume that they've actually heard a substantial amount of music from both genres. Now if they're familiar with both genres and they can't distinguish between the riffing styles of the two genres then I'm saying that they're idiotic about music, BECAUSE PART OF UNDERSTANDING MUSIC IS BEING ABLE TO UNDERSTAND SIMPLE SHIT LIKE THAT. What if you handed a music theory professor a death metal cd and a black metal cd? Even if he's completely unfamiliar with the genres he would be able to distinguish between the two if he was knowledgeable at all.
 
lawl. Cythraul is pretty much 100% right. Listen to a Suffocation cd then listen to Anthems... and tell me the riffs sound even somewhat similar.
 
You realise that neither genre now is stuck to a strict riffing pattern or style nowadays?

(Oh and there is more to death metal than Suffocation)
 
ANTHEM RIFFS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH DEATH METAL. ROCK MUSIC RIFFS AREN'T ON A STRICT PATTERN EITHER, BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THEY SOUND ANYTHING LIKE DEATH METAL RIFFS. AND I KNOW THERE'S MORE TO DEATH METAL THEN SUFFOCATION BUT THEY ARE A GOOD EXAMPLE.[/caps]