Death Metal

[Pitiless Wanderer]

Well, yea it's old school death metal with melody, not MELODIC death metal ala In Flames, etc.

 

[CiG]

Oh, okay.

 

[no country for old wainds]

can we all agree to agree that melodeath is the in flames dark tranquillity stuff and melodic death metal is the stuff that's death metal with melody

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

... i'd rather just refer to it as OSDM. Melodeath = melodic death metal.

 

[End of Glory]

can we all agree to agree that melodeath is the in flames dark tranquillity stuff and melodic death metal is the stuff that's death metal with melody

Wouldn't it make more sense to have it the other way around? Melodic Death Metal = In Flames, Dark Tranquility and melodeath is DM with melody?

 

[The Ozzman]

Gothenburger = In Flames, DT, etc

 

[no country for old wainds]

idk, seems to me like the term including the words 'death metal' should be used to describe something that's, y'know, actually death metal? plus i think the word 'melodeath' was specifically designed for stuff like in flames, DT, SotS etc.

i'm fine with what TB said but it's still useful to differentiate stuff like early ATG from both OSDM and in flames imo.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

ok so how would you describe something like OSDM that's melodic? see, all these labels and genres get pretty lame at some point.

 

[Pitiless Wanderer]

we could just say melodeath for the gothenburg shit and MOSDM for what im talking about

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

The first AtG album is a beast of its own.

edit: A lot of subgenres incorporate a good amount of melody into their music .... doesn't mean we have to tack the word "melodic" to them.

 

[no country for old wainds]

true but i'd argue there's a specific strain of death metal that does this. i'm not one for quibbling over subgenres myself, i just think it sucks that some of the more melodic DM bands (particularly of the '90s) get grouped in with all the godawful melodic death out there and so none of the OSDM-heads bother listening to them. there are quite a few i don't think i would ever have heard if not for kiwi david for example.

 

[paul545]

That description screams shitty band.

I have no problem with 'technical' music, but fuck all these wannabe Necrophagist, jolly death metal bands. I thought that fad had passed.

I know what you mean, but did you actually listen to it?

 

[CiG]

Just call it shit and be done with it.

 

[Slayed Necros]

there are quite a few i don't think i would ever have heard if not for kiwi david for example.

I like to point naysayers towards:

[youtube]watch?v=fkOiFjLGXo4[/youtube]

And obviously, anyone who doesn't see the worth in stuff like Eucharist and Sentenced's North From Here can't be trusted.

 

[CiG]

The drum sound on North From Here is too great a barrier for me to appreciate that album.

 

[no country for old wainds]

haha, that's funny 'cause the eucharist debut has an even more annoying drum sound. i mean, i like it, but it's... unconventional to say the least. you should check that album (A VELVET CREATION) out though if you don't know it 'cause it's like nothing else. they were only like 16 when they made it and that shows to an extent but some of their melodies are out of this world.

wtf wilkinson why did you reregister. i've always liked ETERNAL DEATH.

 

[Slayed Necros]

MalignParadigm account has been limited for unknown reasons, can't post.

 

[The Ozzman]

I don't even see an account for him anymore

 

[ProphetofHatred]

awesome death-esque riffs starting towards the middle of the song

 

[TechnicalBarbarity]

I don't even see an account for him anymore

I do.

http://www.ultimatemetal.com/forum/member.php?u=2936