Kenneth R. said:incubus is not even in a 100 mile radius of nu metal.
FRUGiHOYi said:Corrupting metal... you sound like the music elitist version of a white supremacist.
Turbo said:I think Nu Metal came along because the media thought "Heavy Metal was dying," when we came out of the 1980s....
JoeVice said:but, a record label signs a certain band. this isn't only in the case of the nu-metal scene. there is plenty of same-old-shit death metal, power metal, blues....etc.
you say that this directs the current fad. i completely agree with you...but, you can't blame the genre of nu-metal for being a fad. the fad is always there. the fad is a constant, defined by the mainstream public. nu-metal became part of that fad, and got a bad rep for it (aside from criticism of the music).
JoeVice said:could there be bands that play underground music for the sake of having an underground image?
JoeVice said:i heard this on another board somewhere, so it could just be a rumor...correct me if i'm wrong. i heard that black metal was created as a rebellion to the commercialization of death metal.
JoeVice said:no matter how much supid behind the scenes, or on the tv shit is going on, that always has to be separated from the music
All I'm saying is I'm tired of people saying shit like "metal shouldn't be mixed with this or that kind of music (usually rap). I have a friend who says that shit all the time and it is a very close-minded stance to have.Jim LotFP said:Are you saying that the term metal itself has no meaning? Or that it is somehow uncorruptable? Or no good if it isn't corrupted? What is your stance on the word "metal", or even better, "heavy metal"?
And do you really think that that music, which is created and listened to by choice, is analogous to racial stock, which can not be chosen by anyone? That anyone likes the no-bullshit original and unaltered version of an art form is the equivalent of a racist?
If I'm wrong or setting up a straw man argument, please, set the record straight.
FRUGiHOYi said:All I'm saying is I'm tired of people saying shit like "metal shouldn't be mixed with this or that kind of music (usually rap). I have a friend who says that shit all the time and it is a very close-minded stance to have.
I don't care what it's labeled as. You wanna label it metal, go ahead. It's not going to change the way the music sounds and that's the only thing that interests me.Occam's Razor said:As I said, fine to mix metal elements such as distorted guitars with rap, but then, it's not metal and should accordingly not be named so. Rap metal is neither "new" nor "metal". It is a crossover between hip-hop vocals and heavy guitars.
...or does distortion make Bryan Adams metal?
Depeche Mode has used distortion in their music for ages and lately have also started to use distorted guitars. I think that answers the question pretty well.Occam's Razor said:...or does distortion make Bryan Adams metal?