Does race matter in metal?

Entertainment bands??
Seems to me that this is another opinion of the kind that as soon as a band gets a break, they are no longer "TRUE".
 
I don't think that race matters in metal. Like the others said, most black people don't like metal because it is not considred part of their culture, whereas rap was created by and is dominated by blacks. I imagine that a black person that listens to metal instead of rap would be considered wierd by his peers. What I find interesting is that there are tons of white guys into rap, whereas there are much fewer blacks into metal. I would actually like to see more black people into metal and playing in metal bands. There are plenty of hispanic metalheads however, as there is no dominant kind of music associated with their race (as rap is for blacks). The same goes for Asians.
 
I don’t think it makes sense to say that the majority of white males listen to METAL. It’s the minority. It’s like saying why don’t the majority of Chinese people listen to opera. Even thought it’s not in there culture it’s also not in Western culture to listen to it. Metal is music for the minorities.
 
There are plenty of hispanic metalheads however, as there is no dominant kind of music associated with their race (as rap is for blacks). The same goes for Asians.

Thing about Japanese pop culture is...it's just a big rip-off of American pop culture and most Japanese people and orientals I know listen to it.
 
Nightmarez said:
Eh, I'm a Hispanic that listens to metal and loves every minute. So I guess that makes me in the minority .1% that listens to metal. Coo! Affirmitive Action baby!

Ahem...

Race never has, nor will it ever have any effect on the quality of music that is being produced.

shut tha fuck up!!! you magro! metal its for white! its a white man culture ! go listen to your monkey music and join your salf...

"WORLD : ONE BIG RACE WAR" A. Hitler/ Mine kampf :hotjump:
 
vic was 'ere said:
Ok, so I gather that cultural differences determine musical preference. Most people who listen to metal are white and people who listen to hiphop are mostly black.

When I mention race, most people just think of white or black. What about, say, Hispanics or Asians? How come they don't have a unique style of music that defines their culture, like the black people do?

Most cultures have a musical style, you just don't see it in the charts. White people listen to rock, dance and/or rap, as do black people. Everyone else listens to rock, dance rap and/or their own culture's music, which gives other cultures' own music a very small market share in predominantly black or white countries. Look how long (and how much immigration) it's taken for someone like Punjabi MC to get a whiff of mainstream success in Europe.

Regarding the subject of the message: I'm pretty sure race matters in NSBM, RAC or Viking Metal (I've yet to meet a single practicing non-white Asatru) but with subgenres not implicitly attached to a particular tradition, race or region, I agree that it's an issue of upbringing and peer pressure. Black people don't like to be labelled as "coconuts" any more than white people like being called "wiggers".
 
vic was 'ere said:
Why is it that at least 99.9% of people who listen to metal are white?

Why do you bring fake numbers into a conversation?

Of course Race doesn't matter in metal. I have friends who are Black, White, Hispanic, Asian, Italian, etc.. who listen to metal bands. Race doesn't matter...
 
As a biology teacher I have to point out the fact that there is only one race of humans that inhabits this earth. Biologically there isn't enough differences to separate us humans into more than one race...
 
varg9 said:
shut tha fuck up!!! you magro! metal its for white! its a white man culture ! go listen to your monkey music and join your salf...

"WORLD : ONE BIG RACE WAR" A. Hitler/ Mine kampf :hotjump:


YOU ARE FROM ISRAEL YOU IDIOT!!! ISRAEL!!!!!
I HOPE YOU DIE IN A SUCIDE BOMBING YOU ZIONIST RACIST FAGGOT.
AND YOUR MOM IS A YUKRANIAN WHORE THAT MARRIED A JEW. GO KILL YOUR SELF AND DO US ALL A FAVOR, and P.S. VARG DOSE NOT LIKE YOU.
 
nergal_S said:
YOU ARE FROM ISRAEL YOU IDIOT!!! ISRAEL!!!!!
I HOPE YOU DIE IN A SUCIDE BOMBING YOU ZIONIST RACIST FAGGOT.
AND YOUR MOM IS A YUKRANIAN WHORE THAT MARRIED A JEW. GO KILL YOUR SELF AND DO US ALL A FAVOR, and P.S. VARG DOSE NOT LIKE YOU.


I don't think there are Nazis in Israel. Is just a teen trying to provoke
you.
very sad from you too..you show you're at his level.
 
vic was 'ere said:
[...] Asians? How come they don't have a unique style of music that defines their culture?

Yatta?

I'd say it's a cultural issue, what music you listen to, but it's too easy to say "black" culture or "white" culture, there are so much variation within these groups.

I am concerned with the sometimes too-close ties between extreme metal and neo-nazism. I consider myself very non-racist, and I sometimes wonder "is it okay for me to listen to this?" ,which is very annoying.
For the record, viking/norse mythology and asatru is in no way directly connected to racism or nazism, it really pisses me off when extremist groups drag our scandinavian cultural heritage into the mud the way they do. I do like the use of the norse ideology in terms of anti-christianity. I'm not into the viking thing, nor satanism, but I like those images in my angry music.
 
nergal_S said:
YOU ARE FROM ISRAEL YOU IDIOT!!! ISRAEL!!!!!
I HOPE YOU DIE IN A SUCIDE BOMBING YOU ZIONIST RACIST FAGGOT.
AND YOUR MOM IS A YUKRANIAN WHORE THAT MARRIED A JEW. GO KILL YOUR SELF AND DO US ALL A FAVOR, and P.S. VARG DOSE NOT LIKE YOU.

WOOOOOOO!!!! you fuking JEW! the reason that i live in israel does not efect on my UKRAINIAN nationality and dosent meen that im a jew , you fucking ass hole you think that all peopole that live in here they are JEWS and fucking ZIONIST??!!! you must learn more in school, cause its bulshit! its a fucking CHAOS whats going on here!!! you have emigrants from the ugliests holes in the world! israel its not clean as all thinking, if A.H. was a live hes start
point was ISRAHELL

and what conection have my mom in this subject?
im not try to pick up fight because its stupid to fight with ass holes
but you are the bigest one!!! you makes me sick...:ill:
 
Dying Sun said:
As several social commentators have pointed out (most notably DePaul sociologist Deena Weinstein), metal emerged as a reaction against the feminization and africanization of popular culture by adopting the values of the last great white artistic movement, Romanticism.

This is actually a very interesting point you raise. I am not educated in the roots of metal, therefore cannot be certain, but I can see how it could easily have been effected by romanticism (or serialism in later cases).

However, I think that this should not create racial boundaries.

As a genre develops, the range of styles in it broaden. Since metal emerged there have been bands that have embraced, and taken influence from black culture:

- Dream Theater, King Crimson, Cynic and Atheist were clearly influenced by jazz, a "traditionally" black genre.

- Tool and Opeth (in more recent albums) have taken influence from traditionally eastern musical styles.

- And while I'm not a great fan, many nu metal / metal crossover bands such as Sepultura have clearly been influenced by their own, non-white cultures.

I think that over time, metal will evolve, breaking race boundaries, like many other genres have. There will still be Dissection, but there will also be a variety of other bands which don't kill gay people, or lynch blacks.
 
Lord of Fireworms posted..

Stereotypical?
Fuck that.The guy is obviously retarded.


Considering that this is coming from you, I'll take it as a compliment.

As a biology teacher I have to point out the fact that there is only one race of humans that inhabits this earth. Biologically there isn't enough differences to separate us humans into more than one race...

Your knowledge of "Boasian Science" is irrelevant. Boas was a biased man, and his work is seriously flawed. Just another attempt at a utopian society (or maybe something else.. hmm.. let me see) that will never work. Now, what is relevant is that if you have an open mind and if you are willing to research into the 'other side' which might be 'politically incorrect,' you might find yourself with a totally different opinion when it comes to humans.

If there's not enough biological evidence to seperate humans into races, then there's not enough biological evidence to seperate dogs into different breeds. After all, they are all the 'same' and they all have "the same qualities".. what matters, are their owners and the financial situations of their owners! Does this sound like following the laws of nature and evolution.. it sure doesn't to me. But what do you know, there are always people that will take it for granted.
 
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well i know myself am white, but race does not matter at all in metal...if you love it than awesome...I know that Z A O use to have an African American Bassist, and I thought that, that was the greatest thing ever....not just that you listen to metal but that you play it....
 
varg9 said:
shut tha fuck up!!! you magro! metal its for white! its a white man culture ! go listen to your monkey music and join your salf...

"WORLD : ONE BIG RACE WAR" A. Hitler/ Mine kampf :hotjump:


So, since I'm latin, i can't listen to the music that sounds good to me? Just because I'm not pure white I can't choose what music i want to listen to? So....what you're saying is...I CAN'T LISTEN TO METAL, THE MUSIC I LOVE, THE MUSIC THAT JUST HAPPENS TO SOUND GOOD TO MY EARS BECAUSE I'M LATIN!!!??? That is THE single dumbest thing I have EVER heard!!!! There's is no god damn law that says that! If there is, show it to me, you fuck! I only have two words for you, you full of shit,racist maggot:


FUCK YOU!!!!!!
 
Race matters.... zombies make much better death metal then humans ;)

hehe but if your talking about human races then your insane....

half the band of Suffocation was black.... and they ruled as one of the greatest death metal bands of all time!

only an idiot would think race has anything to do with anything.