Emo kids

[paradoxile]

Condoms stop only some vd's like HIV and ghonorrhea...while there are some it doesn't stop like herpes...
but in any case by dirty I meant mentally dirty...
If you ever watched "Alfie" with Jude Law the first time I saw it I thought Alfie deserved to have a lump in his penis for sleeping around

 

[Metal head87]

I never really saw sleeping around as a bad thing or an act of love. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Condoms stop all STDs. When condoms don't stop something like herpes, it's because the person was probably making out with the girl or giving her cunnilingus (neither of which I would ever do with a total stranger).

 

[paradoxile]

I never really saw sleeping around as a bad thing or an act of love. I don't see anything wrong with it.
Condoms stop all STDs. When condoms don't stop something like herpes, it's because the person was probably making out with the girl or giving her cunnilingus (neither of which I would ever do with a total stranger).

first of all Condoms don't stop all STD's...there are many STD's that are transfered through skin contact like herpes and
secondly the mouth herpes is not the same herpes as the genital one so just like headlice and "crabs" are not the same insect.

just read this...it's from a relyable source...

Holes in Condoms . . .

STDs are very tiny organisms, minuscule in size compared to sperm. These super-small viruses can get through a hole in a condom much more easily than sperm can. For example, HIV (the AIDS-causing virus) is so small that two million of the disease-causing agents could crowd on the period at the end of a sentence.

In 1993 the University of Texas analyzed the results of 11 different studies that had tracked the effectiveness of condoms to prevent transmission of the AIDS virus. The average condom failure rate in the 11 studies for preventing transmission of the AIDS virus was 31%.

One reason condoms fail in preventing the transfer of AIDS is that latex condoms have tiny intrinsic holes called "voids." Sperm is larger than the holes, but the AIDS virus is 50 times smaller than these tiny holes which makes it easy for the virus to pass through [Source: Dr. C. M. Roland, editor of Rubber Chemistry and Technology]. To give you an idea of how easy it would be for the virus to pass through these holes, just imagine a ping pong ball going through a basketball hoop.



Girls Still Get Pregnant!

Did you know that you can use a condom and still get pregnant? A variety of studies have found that condoms have an "annual failure rate" of 10% to 36% when it comes to preventing pregnancy.

Can you imagine the consequences for a couple when their condom fails? It happens all the time! One of the studies found that among teenagers, the condom failure rate regarding pregnancy was 36%! On average, that means that one out of every three teenage couples using condoms will become pregnant each year.



Are You ready to catch a sexually transmitted diseases?

Condoms provide considerably less protection against sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) than they do against pregnancy.

That's because a girl can get pregnant only at ovulation time (that's two to three days each month) but STDs can pass from partner to partner at any time of the month.

STDs are frequently passed through "skin to skin" contact even when condoms are used. This can happen because the bacterial or viral germs that cause many serious STDs (such as human papillomavirus, chlamydia, herpes, and syphilis) do not infect just one place on your body. They may infect anywhere in the male or female genital areas.

So, even if the virus or bacteria isn't passed through tears or holes in the condom itself, you can still get diseases because condoms don't cover or protect all areas of the genital region. That means condoms don't prevent many of the STD infections that take place during sexual contact.

(Editors note: STD is A.K.A. - VD or venereal disease. The first person to email me the root meaning/derivation of the word "venereal" wins a FREE copy of the video by Pam Stenzel called Sex Has A Price Tag. Send me your mailing address if you submit an answer so I can send you the video if you win.)

**Facts to Remember . . .

The United States' Centers for Disease Control (CDC) reports that 56 million Americans have an incurable STD. That means 1 in 5 Americans are infected!

12 million people get a new STD each year!

33,000 people get a new STD every day and 22,000 of them are 15 to 24 years old!

25% of High School students will be infected with an STD before graduation!

 

[Metal head87]

The pregnancy thing isn't really too much a problem since I usually try to get head instead.

But damn, they never told us about that stuff in the sex ed classes. Luckily I'm clean, but I guess I shouldn't try to get with a stranger anymore.

 

[paradoxile]

The pregnancy thing isn't really too much a problem since I usually try to get head instead.

But damn, they never told us about that stuff in the sex ed classes. Luckily I'm clean, but I guess I shouldn't try to get with a stranger anymore.

It may seem like I'm paranoid but it's all about the theory of probability(crunching numbers...fuck yeah!)...you should check with your close lady friends who you're sleeping with whether they had a random sexual encounter or whatever it's called because if you know her it doesn't mean you know everything you need to know about her.

I have a close lady friend from high school...really nice, really open and friendly and helped with a couple of issues I had as I helped her with hers...we were in the same gang...just a group of 15 best friends which we both were among. during that time I had a girlfriend from another highschool in another city(about half an hour drive away) and she had a boyfriend within the gang...so anyway relationships crumbled and in 2002(while being single) she had sex with some dude in an annual holistic festival(peace,love, boobie painting, nudity and rock'n'roll) and got herpes and hepititis from some dude she met there and he was using a condom. her permiscuos days are over.she's the girlfriend of another guy from the mentioned gang for like 2 years now and he got herpes from her(off course she warned him). so this only goes to show...even decent girls can give you vd.
and I am single

now that I scared the living shit out of you...you can feel free to give the girls you sleep with the third degree.

 

[Metal head87]

Actually, the only time I ever did anything with a girl I know was one time on a weekend (this was more than a year ago), a girl I sort of knew asked me if I could walk her home because it was like 2:30 in the morning and she was scared to walk home by herself. At first I didn't really want to because it was going on a 15 minute walk in the completely opposite direction from where I would go, but I couldn't let her walk home by herself so I pretty much had no choice (she was really cute too, so that made my decision easier). So she invited me in if I wanted a drink or something to eat. So we were talking for a while and then we started asking each other kind of intimate questions. She asked me if I've ever given a girl oral before, and I said yes. She said she never had it before. Then it was getting a bit tense and kind of awkward, so I just offered it to her.
Basically, she loved it, I felt awkward about it because she was someone I knew but wasn't dating, I made an excuse that I was really tired and wanted to leave. I didn't get anything done to me.

But I don't really sleep around that much. In fact, I prefer getting head than sex. Like if I see a girl I like at a show or something, I'll flirt with her. But it's not like I go around banging everyone I see.

 

[paradoxile]

what you described me still sounds pretty dirty to me...
In my mind sex is nothing without love and therefore love should come first before engaging in any sexual activity including eating carpet/giving/getting head...
assuming you have sex with a girl and it leads to a relationship...now the relationship depends entirely on sex and once that is gone the relationship is doomed...
and there one more important thing you should know(I hope you saw Clerks 2):you never go ass to mouth

 

[Metal head87]

I see sex as the complete opposite. I think love is about enjoying each other's company and stuff like that. I think sex is nothing more than pure carnal animal instinct. I wouldn't even do anything with a girl if I really liked her. There's such an awkward feeling afterwards. I guess maybe it is some kind of guilt, but whatever.

I still didn't see Clerks 2. I heard Jay and Silent Bob sing 2 King Diamond songs, so that would be cool to see.

I heard you're also not supposed to go from ass to crotch. It causes vaginal infections or something.

 

[paradoxile]

Seeing sex as an instinct makes you no better than an animal..well a dolphin...they are the only animals that have sex for pleasure beside breeding.If you feel guilty that means you know in some conscious or unconscious way it is wrong...it's never to late to change your ways
(oh god I sound like one of those christian tv preachers)
I am old fashioned in my views...I know that but this is pretty much the only way to stop std's,unwanted children(who might grow up to be emo because of their teenage mother who couldn't support them) and stop this everyone is sleeping with everyone thing(and a quote from the first Clerks movie..."37 cocks" pretty much should say it all)

about the ass to crotch thing you're not supposed to do ass to anything...it's not hygienic(not to say about the possibility of pulling out brown nugget on the way out)
in any case when going anal make sure to double bag it...much tighter hole means much more friction(yay mechanics(physics 101)) which means the first condom will probably tear.

about the king diamond songs...I'm not sure, I didn't pay attention.now that I think of it they did sound a bit like King Diamond but no promises.

 

[paradoxile]

back to the emo thing
http://www.babynamenetwork.com/detail.cfm?name=Emogen&gender=Female

 

[Metal head87]

Sex is an instinct that we recieve pleasure from. Humanity could not exist if it were not for the fact that it is an instinct. It's not like they had sex ed classes or porn thousands, hundreds, even one hundred years ago. Humanity also could not exist if it were not for the fact that it is a pleasurable act. We are by nature more selfish than other animals are. If we did not recieve pleasure from it, only religious people would bother with it.

I'm not a religious person by any means. I do some of the religious stuff but that's mostly out of guilt since my mom is very religious and I tell her I do that stuff (like praying or something like that) whenever I speak to her on the phone. But I don't really believe in anything they tought me at school (no offense to anyone who is religious). I don't see anything wrong with any kind of sexual activity before or after marriage. What makes it awkward is I guess some kind of modesty, not really guilt.

But you make it sound like I'm some kind of sex hound though. I haven't had any action what so ever since June (it's not my fault though, there aren't really too many girls in Oak Park).

I don't really care about reproducing at all. I would rather die a thousand deaths than ever be a father. The only way I would ever be a father is if I was like one of those just child support ones when you don't have to bother with the kid other than give a portion of your paycheck to the mother. If there was ever an accident, and I hope that there never will be one, I would suggest an abortion. But if worst comes to worst, child support isn't that bad I guess.

You're never supposed to "double bag". It causes both of them to rip. It's like if you put two socks on. I wouldn't do a butt anyways. I'm very careful about personal hygiene. Protection or not, that is just disgusting.

The King Diamond songs were Welcome Home and The Invisible Guest from what I understand. I saw someone say that Jay and Silent Bob sang The Invisible Guests to some crazy Christian fanatical kid.

 

[Metal head87]

But to stay on topic.
ATTENTION EMO KIDS!!!!!!

 

[UnConscious]

wow thanks to emo kids this has been a great topic, you can find anything about life in here... sex, love, health, sex, black metal, wristcuts, sex, cute norwegian chicks, condoms, sex, king diamond... it contains every aspect of life, full of wisdom

about cutting wrists... i cut my left wrist once, it was so deep i needed microsurgery. but it was not because of my sadness. i was 5 at that time and was playing with my father then an accident happened when i was chasing after him. you can still see the marks of the seam on my wrist. if i'd show it to an emo kid he'd probably think i'm god or something i still feel bad when i hear somebody say something about cutting wrists. maybe that accident saved me from being an emo and cutting my wrists later, who knows?

 

[Metal head87]

Well, my index fingers usually have some pretty bad cuts on them because I never sharpen my knives. Many times when I try to cut something, whether it's an onion or somthing like that, the knife always slips and cuts my finger.
I usually try to make sure that there is no blood in what I cook though hahahaha.

All must be educated on King Diamond, for he is god. I have loads of wisdom regarding King Diamond, black metal, Norwegian chicks, sex, all metal, health, emo hatred and that's pretty much it.

 

[paradoxile]

I'm not a religious person by any means. I do some of the religious stuff but that's mostly out of guilt since my mom is very religious and I tell her I do that stuff (like praying or something like that) whenever I speak to her on the phone. But I don't really believe in anything they tought me at school (no offense to anyone who is religious). I don't see anything wrong with any kind of sexual activity before or after marriage. What makes it awkward is I guess some kind of modesty, not really guilt.

But you make it sound like I'm some kind of sex hound though. I haven't had any action what so ever since June (it's not my fault though, there aren't really too many girls in Oak Park).

I don't really care about reproducing at all. I would rather die a thousand deaths than ever be a father. The only way I would ever be a father is if I was like one of those just child support ones when you don't have to bother with the kid other than give a portion of your paycheck to the mother. If there was ever an accident, and I hope that there never will be one, I would suggest an abortion. But if worst comes to worst, child support isn't that bad I guess.

You're never supposed to "double bag". It causes both of them to rip. It's like if you put two socks on. I wouldn't do a butt anyways. I'm very careful about personal hygiene. Protection or not, that is just disgusting.

Killing is also an instinct but you don't see murder as legitimate way to ease your burdens.what I'm saying is you have control over sex...you can pass down on sex with a girl even if she's attractive unlike animals who are compeled to have sex with everything that moves by their instincts during mating season...so as a human you do have a choice therefore sex is not an instinct otherwise you'd be having sex everytime you're feeling horny.

I don't consider you a sex hound...I think you're normal and you do whatever everyone else does maybe because no one in your surrounding knows any better...and that's all the parents' faults for not giving the proper values to the genaration.

about the religion thing...I'm not religious either moreover I am anti religion so religion has nothing to do with it.I never said anything about pre-marriage but if you must know I'm all for sex before marriage becuase you can express love through sex and you don't need to be married to love someone.
secondly it is recommended to have sex before marriage to get to know your partner in bed...imagine a couple getting along great but never had sex...they get married only to find out the sex is aweful and he has premature ejaculation and she's never pleased and such thing would eventually tear the marriage apart...in most cases like this brake up in inevitable if there are no kids yet so why not save the hastle and break up without getting married.
what I'm saying is don't do one night stands...because it is equivalent to having sex with everything that moves...it's morally wrong and might result in an unwanted child.

about not caring for reproducing...it's your right and you're still pretty young but as times go by your priority might change...because being 40 single without children is not a pretty sight and at this age you're already not in your prime and hear the biological clock ticking.
not wanting to raise your child is fucking selfish...abortion is also problematic if your "partner in crime" wants to keep the baby...but even if she agrees,abortion come with an emotional baggage that rests on the female only plus there's a certain risk of not being able to have children after abortion due to hormonal problems or infection of the whomb etc etc...

the way I'm seeing you,you're parents are divorced and you live with your mom and you think you turned out alright so if you ever have a child he/she will turn out alright too because you're familiar with the situation.
correct me if I'm wrong?

about the anal thing I tried it double bagged and it worked just fine but you have to be much more gentle in that area since it is rather painfull for the girl...in any case I didn't like anal either because it's too gentle and messy so I don't do it either.

 

[Metal head87]

the way I'm seeing you,you're parents are divorced and you live with your mom and you think you turned out alright so if you ever have a child he/she will turn out alright too because you're familiar with the situation.
correct me if I'm wrong?

You're almost right. Yes, it was a terrible divorce and my dad put me through some pretty terrible shit. I know a divorce mediator and he was asking me some stuff about my dad. I told him some of the legal shit he put me through and he said that in all his years as a mediator, seeing all the stuff that the fathers usually do, he never saw anyone do anything I said my dad did (I won't go into it since I don't really like talking about my problems since I am a man and it's better to just bottle this stuff in).

I was raised by my mom, but luckily she actually made more than my dad, not only what he reported as his income, so we didn't need his money. After he became partner in an accounting firm, his salary became much less even though he was actually making twice as much with all the other stuff partners get. Like expense account, profit share, tax writeoffs etc. So he of course only showed the court his salary instead of what he actually made.

I don't think I really turned out right. I am pretty screwed up emotionally. I have an anger problem, although it is not as bad as when I was like 14, 15 or 16. I even walked out of the Passover seder when I was 16 since my cousin who was there was making it take longer and I just wanted to get the damn thing over with. I said a lot of anti-religious stuff, like how all of it is bullshit and I'm sick of doing all this, which pissed off my mom. I almost got in a fist fight with my cousin (my mom's cousin had to hold me back) so I just walked out. To be fair though, I was pretty drunk since I was drinking a lot more than wine. My mom knew I just went to her office though (she used our apartment next door as an office).
I cut other people off emotionally, I bottle in all my emotions and always take it out on other people etc. But, I think all of that made me able to take really serious things a lot better than someone else would.
I'm not a bad person or anything. I never let people I know see me act that way. I've also mellowed out and relaxed a lot more in the past couple of years since I got older I guess.

But that's also the reason I won't go to Israel. If I go there, I know I would want to see my family there but, I don't want to see my dad. If I do see him, I'll probably beat the shit out of him.

But not wanting to raise a child is not selfish. I would most likely not have wanted him/her. I would give child support, but that's only because I wouldn't want to be just like my dad even though I am pretty similar to him.

 

[paradoxile]

But not wanting to raise a child is not selfish. I would most likely not have wanted him/her. I would give child support, but that's only because I wouldn't want to be just like my dad even though I am pretty similar to him.

not wanting to have a child is not selfish...not raising you child is selfish
a child needs a father in any case to ballance the mother otherwise the kid grows up to be emotionally screwed up...in case the fathwer is abusive there are always step dads that are not(though a lot of them are)

so basicly you don't want a child because you're affraid of putting him through what your dad put you through...I can understand that

but as I said earlier...through time your priority will change...aspecially if you fall in love and get married and your wife would want a baby.

 

[Metal head87]

so basicly you don't want a child because you're affraid of putting him through what your dad put you through...I can understand that

That's not it. Kids are a burden. I don't want to deal with them. If that's selfish, then I guess I am selfish.
Although I am very sour on the whole idea of marriage and having kids, so that could be part of it as well.
But I'm not the type who should ever be a father anyways. A lot of my ideas are actually very similar to my dad's because I saw him as an example. Everyone says I should look at all the people I know who are good fathers/husbands, but it just doesn't work that way. Everyone tends to look at their father's example even if it is, and they know it is, completely wrong. The accident would be better off if he didn't have me as a father figure. Not that it would be my reason, it would be my justification for doing so.
But again, I would still pay child support to make sure the accident would have what he needs to survive because I would be at fault. I'm not completely without sense of responsiblity.

Just to be clear though. I have no mistakes walking around, so this is all basically a "what if" scenario.

 

[paradoxile]

ok I understand...I agree with you partially about the "dad is a role model even if you know he's completely wrong"...
taking example from other fathers is something I discourage completely because you don't see the whole picture and probably getting the wrong idea about a certain person...I mean he could be beating his wife and you wouldn't know about it...he could be cheating on his wife etc... etc...
secondly a person's behavior is defined by his personality which is something you're born with and his upbringing(everything he recieved from his surrounding like family, friends, enemies).
It's like this bad habbit my parents have that just pisses me off...they say that their coleague's son is getting better grades than I do.when I ask them what's his average they say they don't know but it seems he has good grades. the point is they don't know his average,they don't know my average(because I don't tell them) and he's studying for a completely different Bachelor's degree in a different university. what is there exactly to compare?

my point in all this is you should take your father's example but you also have to take your dad as a negative example and try not to repeat his mistakes when you know beyond a doubt he's wrong. it's kind of stuggling with your demons because by having your dad's opinion about some things means some of his bad behavior is also imprinted in you.

off course kids are a burden...it's a human being not a machine...kids are also a blessing, you have someone to love and a part of you is imprinted into your child so you can see a bit of yourself in your child and seeing your child succeed is the most gratifying thing in the world but I guess maybe it's just me.I'm not here to tell you what to do, just giving some alternatives you might have seen or not seen.

 

[Metal head87]

But if someone takes example from someone, it doesn't matter how they act behind closed doors. If you're looking at a good father/husband as your influence, that image is your influence. If you don't know that he's beating the shit out of his wife and kids, you're not taking that particular example.

I know what you mean about comparisons. My mom always used to do her Jewish mother thing at why I am not more religious like the kids I used to go to school with. I said many times that she has no right to expect me to become a religious fanatic like they are. There was one that she always used as the example. I said that he only lived a 5 to 10 minute drive from his all boys school yet he wants to dorm. Maybe according to some religious fanatic laws, I am not allowed to speak to girls or something, but that is sure as hell better than whatever is happening at those schools that boys would rather dorm with other boys than hang out with girls. That actually kept her quiet for a while hahahahahahaha. Not to mention that those kind of kids are usually the holier than thou assholes who are completely brainwashed by those schools.

It's not really my dad's behavior imprinted on me, although some of it is. It's mostly that we have a little of the same personality.

I don't see kids as a blessing at all. I see them as a curse. Something to love? Yeah, for like 5 or 6 years. Then they start acting up. Then when they become teens, they become everything you don't want them to be. For something to love, a girlfriend, a friend, a pet are all better than kids.