brianhood
No Care Ever
if my memory serves me correctly, joey purchased the 002 or 003 way back in sept 2007 when we were recording with him.
what the heck happened with that joey? hahaha
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if my memory serves me correctly, joey purchased the 002 or 003 way back in sept 2007 when we were recording with him.
what the heck happened with that joey? hahaha
kaomao
Member
instead of a DIGI 192 you can check this:
http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=xl...&_trksid=m270&_odkw=xlog+alpha+link&_osacat=0
http://shop.ebay.com/items/?_nkw=xl...&_trksid=m270&_odkw=xlog+alpha+link&_osacat=0
::XeS::
Member
Btw how studio like Hertz can manage his work with nuendo?
In fact they use Protools.
I don't want to turn this into a Mac or PC thread....but I think if you go PTHD, you should strongly consider going Mac if you are on PC.
Joshua Wickman
Yes Sir!
Yea i think monophonic works better on the cymbals personally but I'm still experimenting and comparing different settings.
I just love that you can save some of the original feel of the drummer if you like and pick and choose what you want to quantize. With beat detective is kinda all or nothing you know.
Hows your band recording coming along Arron?
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
another funny thing...
in cubase I could never blend tracks of the same DI reamped through different amps...always got really boomy and phasey and weird sounding.
in PT I just set the preferred faderlevels of the blend and am fine.
I'll make a comparison of that phenomenon in the next days (same DI through two different amps blended at certain fader level/ratio
you'll hear that Cubase somehow still fucks with the phase (although the ADC should take care of everything and both tracks are in the same session with the same (no) plugins.
Don't ask me why but that's how it is.
when I was looking for an HD Interface I decided to go with the Apogee AD-16x plus X-HD card.....not the cheapest solution but certainly the best sounding one (don't wanna say that the 192 are bad by any means!!)
in cubase I could never blend tracks of the same DI reamped through different amps...always got really boomy and phasey and weird sounding.
in PT I just set the preferred faderlevels of the blend and am fine.
I'll make a comparison of that phenomenon in the next days (same DI through two different amps blended at certain fader level/ratio
you'll hear that Cubase somehow still fucks with the phase (although the ADC should take care of everything and both tracks are in the same session with the same (no) plugins.
Don't ask me why but that's how it is.
when I was looking for an HD Interface I decided to go with the Apogee AD-16x plus X-HD card.....not the cheapest solution but certainly the best sounding one (don't wanna say that the 192 are bad by any means!!)
::XeS::
Member
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
no
the apogee with the X-HD card is recognized by PT as 192.
I've got my RME ADI-8 DS connected to the Apgee via lightpipe
I'm actually not using my other Apogee and the Focusrite anymore cause I just don't need them atm.
and I have yet to hear a better sounding converter than that apogee.
jipchen
ForesterStudio
does that mean you can ge a protools HD 1 core card, the Apogee 16 X with the X-HD card and you're ready?
Or do you need the 96 i/o to connect it /need it in any other way?
Why the additional RME ADI-8 Converter? More Channels?
Lasse Lammert
HCAF Blitzkrieg
jipchen
ForesterStudio
::XeS::
Member
My question: if you have apogee 16x and x-hd card, do you still need hd1 core card installed? Only installed or connecter with something?
you don't need the apogee... you did with the old Mix and Mix+ systems, but not with HD. the 192 converters are excellent. i doubt any of you, Lasse included, could actually hear any difference at all in an a/b test. many got rid of their apogees when the 192 came out.
Yes you do need the Core cards as well as accel cards for more power. As far as I know the Apogee HD cards or anything similar like the Lynx just use their own cards to trick Pro Tools into thinking it is using a 192 or 96. But the X-HD cards then connect to the HD Core card and the core card to the accel card(s).
Ermz
¯\(°_o)/¯
Good luck with the switch over dude. I hope it gives you the flexibility to push your work that extra mile. Keep in mind to find some replacements for your VST-only plug-in favourites, as not all of them will wrap correctly. Audio Damage stuff in particular doesn't work. I agree with James in regards to not needing the Apogee... to be frank I don't really like the sound of Apogee converters at all. I've always preferred the Lynx Aurora when multi-tracking. Regardless the 192 should do fine. Some of my best stuff was tracked on a 96. At the end of the day having the singer fart quietly whilst performing will make a bigger difference.
I'd love to join you in HD-land, but I just can't bring myself to pay so much for obsolete hardware on principle alone. Digidesign are living in a fairly land, pushing TDM rigs as if native hasn't given them the boot for years now. They count on the sad fact that people will apply simply because it's an industry standard. Just like Macs, you pay for the name and the reputation, not necessarily the power. I can't even run a 64-bit OS with my new rig because ProTools hasn't been coded to support them, even in the major '8' update. The more and more I spend bashing my head against this modern DAW brickwall I find that the developers models of companies like Cockos are much better than the industry fatcats that will rape your finances at every possible opportunity and give little back. ProTools is by far the best DAW I've ever used, but it so isn't worth having to deal with Digidesign over.
I'd love to join you in HD-land, but I just can't bring myself to pay so much for obsolete hardware on principle alone. Digidesign are living in a fairly land, pushing TDM rigs as if native hasn't given them the boot for years now. They count on the sad fact that people will apply simply because it's an industry standard. Just like Macs, you pay for the name and the reputation, not necessarily the power. I can't even run a 64-bit OS with my new rig because ProTools hasn't been coded to support them, even in the major '8' update. The more and more I spend bashing my head against this modern DAW brickwall I find that the developers models of companies like Cockos are much better than the industry fatcats that will rape your finances at every possible opportunity and give little back. ProTools is by far the best DAW I've ever used, but it so isn't worth having to deal with Digidesign over.
gabriel g.
Member
Joey I think you are at the point where labels gonna tell you:
"Guy track and produce the band but we wanna Adam D. , Colin Richardson, Andy sneap, Zeuss bla bla bla to mix it....not because you are bad, just because we want the big name on the record"
Thats for you need protools.
The TDM argument is totaly shit!!!
You can use all your waves plugins!!!Just download the installers for the rtas versions.
I think you maybe going to have problems with your UAD cards.
I switched from cubase to logic, because a lot of studios here in germany work with logic on PT Hd systems.
I think you maybe can transfer sessions between the daws?
Not realy shure on that.
A friend of mine has the apogee converter with Api, Neve, Chandler, micpres. He uses it with PT LE but is going to switch to HD.
Amazing rig!!!!
And I think you better go on with Mac. PT works on PC but Mac is the more professional set up, and works 99% solid!!!
This is going to be a ruff one:
3K for mac pro 8 core
3,5K protools HD
hey 2,5K left. Enough for a real api 2500
"Guy track and produce the band but we wanna Adam D. , Colin Richardson, Andy sneap, Zeuss bla bla bla to mix it....not because you are bad, just because we want the big name on the record"
Thats for you need protools.
The TDM argument is totaly shit!!!
You can use all your waves plugins!!!Just download the installers for the rtas versions.
I think you maybe going to have problems with your UAD cards.
I switched from cubase to logic, because a lot of studios here in germany work with logic on PT Hd systems.
I think you maybe can transfer sessions between the daws?
Not realy shure on that.
A friend of mine has the apogee converter with Api, Neve, Chandler, micpres. He uses it with PT LE but is going to switch to HD.
Amazing rig!!!!
And I think you better go on with Mac. PT works on PC but Mac is the more professional set up, and works 99% solid!!!
This is going to be a ruff one:
3K for mac pro 8 core
3,5K protools HD
hey 2,5K left. Enough for a real api 2500
I hope you still keep your old setup.
Sometimes just being able to say that you have pro tools is enough to get bands/labels etc to shut up.
It's more like peace of mind than anything. Lord knows after years of trying to explain to my drummer that recording in pro tools won't necessarily mean its going to make us sound better, I'm sure he's still not convinced.
I have nothing against pro tools. Hell I have nothing against any DAW's. I've used the early Cakewalks, Vegas, Sonar, and now Logic and I have no complaints about any of them. (Yes I've used pro tools before too in a couple of sessions)
But it does kinda anger me that you're being persuaded to get it when obviously you've had no issues cranking out great records with what you have now.
If it's really that important for your work by all means go for it.
Just remember you can use your old rig whenever you want to. Noone will be able to tell
I remember sitting in a Mastering studio and reading an article in a magazine written by the engineer. At the end of the article his gear is listed. When I saw a Mac Pro listed I looked around the room and didn't see it. When I asked him where is was he laughed and tapped his iMac and said "right here baby!"
Peace of mind
Sometimes just being able to say that you have pro tools is enough to get bands/labels etc to shut up.
It's more like peace of mind than anything. Lord knows after years of trying to explain to my drummer that recording in pro tools won't necessarily mean its going to make us sound better, I'm sure he's still not convinced.
I have nothing against pro tools. Hell I have nothing against any DAW's. I've used the early Cakewalks, Vegas, Sonar, and now Logic and I have no complaints about any of them. (Yes I've used pro tools before too in a couple of sessions)
But it does kinda anger me that you're being persuaded to get it when obviously you've had no issues cranking out great records with what you have now.
If it's really that important for your work by all means go for it.
Just remember you can use your old rig whenever you want to. Noone will be able to tell
I remember sitting in a Mastering studio and reading an article in a magazine written by the engineer. At the end of the article his gear is listed. When I saw a Mac Pro listed I looked around the room and didn't see it. When I asked him where is was he laughed and tapped his iMac and said "right here baby!"
Peace of mind
yeah, uh... Charlie.... i don't advise that course of action there buddy. lying to people who are paying you thousands of dollars is just a bad idea... second, you assume far too much... particularly that these people only want to "hear" that you have PT for their "piece of mind"... proves to me that you haven't worked with too many labels.
that's the problem with forums.. literally anyone can give "advice".
yeah, don't lie to your clients kids... it's a small business and a small world. word gets around quick.
seriously Charlie... be a bit more responsible and know what you're talking about if you're going to drop "pearls" like that in here.
that's the problem with forums.. literally anyone can give "advice".
yeah, don't lie to your clients kids... it's a small business and a small world. word gets around quick.
seriously Charlie... be a bit more responsible and know what you're talking about if you're going to drop "pearls" like that in here.
^in addition to that, i know that there's quite a few analog studios out there that added PT rigs, only to let them sit in the corner and collect dust while the tape machines keep rolling...
