Ok, I have read enough posts that continuously refer to anything that isnt what they like as "nu-metal". Last I checked, Katatonia has not had a single rap verse on their album. Nor have they even remotely associated themselves with all of these nu-metal bands. Any time a band puts out a new album that is different from the last one, it is instantly tagged as being too "nu-metal". Holy shit, they had screaming in the background on one song!!! Wait, they must be Nu-Metal. Because any band with background screams is Nu-metal. Let us not forget they used to scream in the very old days. Does this mean that if they scream in a death metal tone then its ok but if they scream in a clearer tone that they are nu-metal? Im just saying that it doesnt matter what you call a band, if they are good they are good. Drop the useless labels, kick back, relax, and enjoy the damn music already! Having said that, I think that Viva Emptiness is quite possibly the best album Katatonia have ever put out. It still conveys the dark atmosphere that Katatonia have become known for and yet it packs a slightly harder punch than some of their more recent work. Though I still say Sulpher is the best LFDGD track and definately one of their best songs ever.