Guitar Player's Thread

A limiter is normally used to get a mix to appear to sound louder. It does that by chopping off the peaks of the waveform (hard clipping in the pic below)

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If is technically adding some distortion to your mix because it is making the waveform have less dynamic range by chopping off the peaks and then increasing the overall volume.

It is real easy to ruin a recording with too hard limiting (listen to metallica's death magnetic, it got shit all over by a limiter)
Its known as "the loudness war" in the industry because while it makes your mixes sound louder, it also ruins the dynamics and adds distortion, and over the years engineer's have been using limiters more and more to get their band's to sound louder than other bands (because for some reason people dont want to turn up the dial on their stereo and just think whatever recording is the loudest is the heaviest)

Mixing, is panning, levels, fx all that jazz but most importantly its about EQ'ing each instrument to fit in the mix as a whole, which is a giant pain the ass to figure out. I'm not very good at it.

Basically in real basic terms because i gotta run right now, each instrument is made up of certain frequencies, when two or more instruments have the majority of the same frequencies, they fight for their place in the mix and they dont sound clear (they might sound great solo'd and by themselves, but when played together they might sound muddy because they are trying to take up the same space in the sonic spectrum)

So basically EQing in mixing terms would be cutting certain frequencies on instruments to let other instruments fill that spot. Each specific instrument has it's important frequencies and should have it's own spot to shine through there.
 
Thanks lowburger for that explanation.

Ok I need to pester you guys with one more problem:

I get it to sound decent, but whenever the choir is playing alone the volume raises :mad:

Maybe I should apply the compressor and limiter to all the tracks but those who solo?
 
really bad playing? i've used 2 compressors and a limiter, it sounded "trapped" as fuck, but better than the original :kickass:
 
I tried messing around with one comp. and one limiter!

Turn off the compressor and the signal got lower.

Turn off the limiter and the track started clipping like fuck.
 
A limiter is normally used to get a mix to appear to sound louder. It does that by chopping off the peaks of the waveform (hard clipping in the pic below)

600px-Clipping_compared_to_limiting.svg.png



If is technically adding some distortion to your mix because it is making the waveform have less dynamic range by chopping off the peaks and then increasing the overall volume.

It is real easy to ruin a recording with too hard limiting (listen to metallica's death magnetic, it got shit all over by a limiter)
Its known as "the loudness war" in the industry because while it makes your mixes sound louder, it also ruins the dynamics and adds distortion, and over the years engineer's have been using limiters more and more to get their band's to sound louder than other bands (because for some reason people dont want to turn up the dial on their stereo and just think whatever recording is the loudest is the heaviest)

Mixing, is panning, levels, fx all that jazz but most importantly its about EQ'ing each instrument to fit in the mix as a whole, which is a giant pain the ass to figure out. I'm not very good at it.

Basically in real basic terms because i gotta run right now, each instrument is made up of certain frequencies, when two or more instruments have the majority of the same frequencies, they fight for their place in the mix and they dont sound clear (they might sound great solo'd and by themselves, but when played together they might sound muddy because they are trying to take up the same space in the sonic spectrum)

So basically EQing in mixing terms would be cutting certain frequencies on instruments to let other instruments fill that spot. Each specific instrument has it's important frequencies and should have it's own spot to shine through there.

Thanks so much for this Alex :)
So it sounds like if you can avoid using the limiter, that would be the best thing to do, correct? Because all it essentially does is make your track sound louder, but why do that at the expense of cutting out the dynamics and adding more distortion to make a muddier sound...
 
Thanks so much for this Alex :)
So it sounds like if you can avoid using the limiter, that would be the best thing to do, correct? Because all it essentially does is make your track sound louder, but why do that at the expense of cutting out the dynamics and adding more distortion to make a muddier sound...

well, that is one of the biggest problems music is going on right now. Case: Death Magnetic, just open the track in a editor and take a took at the waves, there is no resting, everything is at the peak all the time


ensi@ try output gain