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I was baptized catholic when I was a baby. Haven't been to mass since I was 11 because I completely lost faith. My grandmother still doesn't talk to me.
i think im gonna visit the new life church
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Church really bothers me because what seems so utterly unreasonable to me is just eaten up by the congregation. It's like knowing 1+1=2 and then seeing some guy tell everyone that 1+1=3.
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Yeah, I know, I used to say shit like that 24/7 in 7th grade. And now I can understand why it annoys people. I don't really care what people believe.
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And I agree AchrisK, of course I don't really know what I believe and don't really care about the beginning of the universe, but Science doesn't know everything. If that was true we wouldn't be doing experiments anymore.
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And I agree AchrisK, of course I don't really know what I believe and don't really care about the beginning of the universe, but Science doesn't know everything. If that was true we wouldn't be doing experiments anymore.
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I don't really understand what you're getting at. But the human mind is the best we got and we have to do our best to accurately understand the way things are according to the human mind. Pointing out that nothing can be known absolutely (no fucking duh) doesn't make the best answer (science) any less meaningful.
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Penn Jilette has something interesting to say regarding agnostic vs atheism here:
http://www.godlessbastard.com/03.html
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By their definitions, agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, since agnosticism applies to knowledge and and atheism to belief. When talking about a deistic god I am both an agnostic and an atheist, since I do not know for sure (like I don't know for sure about Bigfoot) that there isn't one, but in the light of the total lack of evidence I do not believe. Connotatively atheists are usually seen as people who are sure and agnostics are people who, for whatever reason, decide not to tell whether they belief in God or not.
I've always been a little confused by this because belief on the existence of something is not something that can be nebulous. You can be unsure of your reason for (dis)belief, but when it comes down to it you believe or don't believe.
EDIT: Holy shit Penn is saying exactly the same thing as me. High Five
I've always been a little confused by this because belief on the existence of something is not something that can be nebulous. You can be unsure of your reason for (dis)belief, but when it comes down to it you believe or don't believe.
EDIT: Holy shit Penn is saying exactly the same thing as me. High Five
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I went a few times as a kid but my parents are only fairweather Christians (Catholic) because it is the most socially acceptable things. I have been an atheist for as long as I can remember.
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My view of atheism is that it purposes itself to invalidate all religious and spiritual beliefs. I'm agnostic because I can accept that the remaining uncertainty can allow most people on this planet to find happiness through faith and spirituality. And it's not because I think they ought to believe in falsehoods, but because the majority of our race is too uneducated and desperate to accept the logic of their existence as nonexistent, or, at least, an uncertainty.
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I've been slowly turning to Paganism. I believe that we should be with Earth, and nature. That's why I love living in Maine. It's easy to with it when it's everywhere around you. (for the most part)
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But that isn't what atheism means. Atheism has no purpose, no dogma, no tenets, no beliefs. Because of this lack of belief in area where many people have one, numerous atheists are opposed to religion. Many also aren't.
I'm a little confused about your sentence: "I'm agnostic because I can accept that the remaining uncertainty can allow most people on this planet to find happiness through faith and spirituality." I accept this as well. It's an undeniable fact that religion helps some people find happiness. Acceptance of this fact is irrelevant to the essential question of belief.
I'm a little confused about your sentence: "I'm agnostic because I can accept that the remaining uncertainty can allow most people on this planet to find happiness through faith and spirituality." I accept this as well. It's an undeniable fact that religion helps some people find happiness. Acceptance of this fact is irrelevant to the essential question of belief.
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