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Two bands 'pushing the envelope':
- Deathspell Omega
- Drudkh
Any other BM bands on the cutting edge?
Two bands 'pushing the envelope':
- Deathspell Omega
- Drudkh
Any other BM bands on the cutting edge?
is black metal coming of age?
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Actually, let me have a try...
Negura Bunget -- OM
This has probably put them on some pinnacle, and they already reached 'genius' status at 'N Crugu
In the Woods -- HEart of Ages
Older release I know, but SO AHEAD of its time.
Disclaimer: Tr00 BM idealogy can be dismissed for the purposes of this thread.
Negura Bunget -- OM
This has probably put them on some pinnacle, and they already reached 'genius' status at 'N Crugu
In the Woods -- HEart of Ages
Older release I know, but SO AHEAD of its time.
Disclaimer: Tr00 BM idealogy can be dismissed for the purposes of this thread.
Krilons Resa
Jerry's married?!
Actually, I think that Black and Death Metal have the most shit:great ratio out of any genre. It's just SO saturated. Every pizza-faced, agorophobic, teen who has a chip on his shoulder because he has been been beaten up all his life is trying to make some kind of ultra-grim bedroom BM demo.
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MajestikMøøse
Membrum virile
Drudkh "Pushing the envelope?"
fuck that.
Negura Bunget and DsO are probably the better examples here.
fuck that.
Negura Bunget and DsO are probably the better examples here.
Hell Mike
fuck melodic black metal
...and which bands are pushing the envelope in thrash metal? death metal? doom metal? Whilst sticking to the genre? And being good?`Either one of those two? Bah!
Try Woods of infinity for being cutting edge and all fo that, but I don't think they're good very often so they only get half a mention.
Try Woods of infinity for being cutting edge and all fo that, but I don't think they're good very often so they only get half a mention.
MajestikMøøse;5734556 said:
Actually, I was highlighting the two bands mentioned in the article which you so obviously read.
MajestikMøøse
Membrum virile
whether I read the article or not, I don't really think that Drudkh is "pushing the envelope" of black metal
The article doesn't say they're "pushing the envelope." It talks about 'romanticism' in the BM offering which few other bands are as highly recognized for today.
It's completely besides the point anyway. Feel free to offer your own list.
By the way, are you on invisible mode?
It's completely besides the point anyway. Feel free to offer your own list.
By the way, are you on invisible mode?
MajestikMøøse
Membrum virile
Dark One
The Tainted Dogma
MajestikMøøse;5734924 said:
Way to go man. You know you can always count on us for support if you need it.
J.
Old Fart
i read the article a while ago. how are DsO pushing any envelope? THey are not original in sound, but maybe in their "satan as ideology" nonsense. dunno, they just dont do much at all for me, so maybe im biased a bit.
though i see where the dude is coming from.
but yeah, the french are making amazing BM these days, it just seems the wrong bands are getting the hype
though i see where the dude is coming from.
but yeah, the french are making amazing BM these days, it just seems the wrong bands are getting the hype
Nico
Onward!
Nico
Onward!
Band that pushed the envelope: WEAKLING.
Bands that continue in this tradition: WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM & NIROTH.
Bands that continue in this tradition: WOLVES IN THE THRONE ROOM & NIROTH.
hibernal_dream
A Mind Forever Voyaging
Musically, the only band for me pushing it in recent years is Averse Sefira. I don't find DsO that impressive
spaffe
Geisterglut
That article was a nice read as long as the first half went, and I think he might be on to something. But to say that Drudkh represents something really new or fresh, whether referring to their music or ideology, is I think stretching it. They've managed to create an impressing aura of mystery around the band and maybe they've also taken folk identity, regionality and natioanlism one step further, but I don't think it's enough to warrant them being used as an example of something new and special.
I belive that Negura Bunget would have been a better example for what he was trying to communicate. N'Crugu and OM are masterpieces of both musical (albeit, from what I've gathered, not ideologial) "black metal" and, as far as I understand, a certain spirituality linked to the nature and culture of their region. Had they written english lyrics to OM they would probably be as highly regarded and recognized as DsO, but on the other hand they would probably have lost a lot of atmosphere and the very "regionalism" which seems to be so very important to them and their music. The same goes for Drudkh I belive, only here I'm certain that they would be a lot less interesting without ukrainian lyrics.
But, back to DSO: they and some of their kin, have definately set a new standard for black metal music and lyrics. It's clever, it's ambitious and very very good.
"Time will tell", but I think NoEvDia might represent a new chapter, like the 1st wave and 2nd wave of BM, in the history of black metal. They've gathered a heap of very talented, smart and ambitious BM bands, they are obviously very serious in what they're doing and their releases are generally of a very high musical quality. But also when it comes to such a thing as packaging they excel. The vinyl editions are luxurious with thick and heavy vinyl, gatefold sleeves and very artistic artwork. Which means that their legacy will not only be musical, but also artistic in the more material way.
Negura Bunget is one of the only Black Metal bands truly peaking my intrest lately. No one else comes close to sounding like them in my eyes, and they never cease to amaze me with each new album.
I'm not sure where I stand with Drudkh, but are there any other bands that have created a similar atmosphere similar to Autumn Aurora or Blood in our Wells? I'm not talking about artists where Drudkh might have drawn inspiration -- Ulver or Burzum -- but modern, relevant bands projecting a similar soundscape? I'd be very interested in exploring this avenue further.
Agreed. If the vocals are 'unclean' then I have no problem with language. If it helps them in their artistry then so be it. It's only when bands try to sing emotively / cleanly in a foreign language when it begins to sound 'odd'. E.g. Temnozor or Skyforger.
Damn f'ing straight. That said, I've not heard anything previous to Si Monumental Circumcision.
