kill crips and tards?
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cookiecutter
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If you mean humans are naturally arrogant (thank you Alasdhair for the visual aid) and hypocritical, then no I won't deny that.
AchrisK
Weakling
That is not an equivalent scenario and neither proves or even speaks to the issue. Sperm has the potential to become human life, but glintillions of sperm do not fertilize eggs and become nothing but rotting carcasses. Same goes for zillions of eggs. But how many fertilized human eggs end up as anything but humans? You claimed that "Even a fertilized egg doesn't always become a human.", but you never answered the question about what else is ever the result of a fertilized human egg.
So what else?
I agree that most people don't see it as *simply* birth control in the same sense as condoms or other preventative measures. But I believe there is right and wrong and that life is made very complicated by ignoring that. I understand and admit that this comes from my Judeo-Christian values, and I don't intend to come off as preaching or trying to condemn anyone's behavior. But you have to admit that rampant and irresponsible sexual activity has complicated and ruined many many lives, and the only thing it really gives in return is a "good time", and not even always that.
The Ozzman
Melted by feels
Well, one could make the argument since DNA means life is present, then when the DNA is first formed in the fetus, that is when life begins.
It's not my view, but some people look at it that way.
Mort Divine
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Valerie
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You're wrong. Cookiecutter's masturbation/period point is the exact same situation as yours. No organs equals no human, you know this even though you're naïvely denying it.
This is exactly why we need more objective people in the world
To bring up another example in my world-famous series of analogies, I give you this: There is a Half-Life 2 modification called Insurgency; it's a realism based game that encourages team work and tactics. There is a plugin for multiple Half-Life 2 based games (Counter-Strike: Source, Day of Defeat: Source, etc.) where the players are all on one team, and a single player is put on the other team as a zombie. The human team has to defeat the zombies before they get turned into zombies themselves.
Now, how does this relate to the thread?
Many people want the aforementioned plugin to be coded for Insurgency, however, the purists hate the idea. Here's the important part: if you don't like the plugin, don't play on a server that has it. Simple, right?!
Simply put, if you don't like abortions, then don't have one. But many people every year want, and in some cases, need one. So, stop trying to be holier-than-thou and thinking that yours is the only opinion that is valid and should be enforced.
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cookiecutter
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Miscarriage, Anencephaly, other defects that cause things that you could hardly characterize as human to grow.
I really can't argue with anything in this post but I don't think abortion is any cause of this.
AchrisK
Weakling
What I said is that humans in general see human life as having intrinsic value, apart from any taught religious bias. Cookie has explained that away in true evolutionary form, but I disagree. We are so far from animals that it makes me cringe when people say humans are just another animal species. Animals don't even show signs of the behaviors of humans. Mass murder of your own kind. The creative drive which has given us music, painting, sculpture, writing and a myriad of other things classified and not. Hate. Evil. Love. Surrealism! Yeah, we act like animals sometimes and can be really stupid. But even our stupidity reveals us as entirely different from all animals.
Mort Divine
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This is such a difficult thread to respond to, not only because it's a sensitive subject for some to talk about, but because I feel i'm contradicting myself with my answers. Normally (and i dont care who thinks i'm terrible for feeling this way) I'm prolife. It has nothing to do with religion but I just simply don't agree abortion. Unless rape or other terrible circumstances occur and it wasnt your choice to have the baby then ok, but other than that there are plenty ways to protect yourself. However, on this topic i find that my thoughts are conflicting. I feel as if the right thing to do would be to abort the baby that was destined to have a disability. It's not only a burden for the parents, but also a terrible life to lead. It's like your giving someone new legs, but they aren't aloud to walk anyway. Your giving someone a life who isn't able to live it to the fullest.
AchrisK
Weakling
Aren't they defective humans?
No, it's not the cause. I think I was arguing for a system that prevents problems rather than having to fix them in controverial (to some) and potentially unhealthy ways. Also, I think abstinence is a good answer. There is really no denying it is the best answer, but you are right that it can't be the only thing taught. If people are going to have sex, they should know how to do it responsibly. I would rather teach my son that and try to save him a lot of grief than have him ignorant, but I will always teach abstinence first and foremost.
AchrisK
Weakling
AchrisK
Weakling
I would not feel bad at all if I was you. It's not a simple and easy issue with an easy answer.
Alasdhair
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Why? For having an opinion? If this is a debate (which I hope it is), then should both sides not be listened to?
I know it's slightly arrogant, but it's true is it not? Maybe I did choose the wrong word with best... Maybe "most intelligent" would be better?How arrogant.
Valerie
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Why? Because you think people that need something shouldn't have it? Maybe you're right, it didn't warrent a response, it warrented the end of the thread.
AchrisK
Weakling
No. It was a joke based on your statement, "So yes, I agree with killing of "crips and tards""
Sorry
Yes, all sides of intelligent discussion should be heard.
Mort Divine
Shrine Maiden of the In-Crowd
No, it is not true. Most intelligent still comes off as arrogant to me, but is far more acceptable than "We're the best race on the planet."
AchrisK
Weakling
Maybe you should read the rest of what I have posted instead of flying off the handle, ranting and raving, and quoting one of the stupidest bumper stickers I have ever seen.
That's why.
AchrisK
Weakling
Stop whining about semantics. Humans have *evolved* (tongue -> cheek) to a level that is so far beyond animals we exhibit traits never displayed or even hinted at in any animal.
