Metal Songs by non-metal bands?

[Satanstoenail]

There is no ultimate authority who determines what genre a band falls in.

I wholeheartedy agree. But getting all huffy when someone tells you that you're wrong is the ultimate in retardedness.

 

[Demilich]

What if you know you're not wrong? Retardedness is underrated.

 

[R.I.P.2]

They're both quite heavy. Compared to pop etc.

True enough, but neither are really metal.

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Thank you! Someone that agrees it's Metal Sub-Genre

That someone is Ender, one of the least bright members of the forum. Having him agree with you actually weakens your 'argument' which so far has basically been "fuckin saw it on a fuckin shitty documentary fuckers", sorry to break the news to you. Check your negative rep for more details!

 

[Ender Rises]

 

[Demilich]

I don't know why people give Sam Dunn so little credit. People talk as if he hasn't been into metal since the 80s, doesn't play in a respected local band, have a graduate level education in anthropology, etc.

I thought he did a good job on the documentary too, as I told him when I saw him right up front during the Sacrifice reunion show last month.

 

[Satanstoenail]

What if you know you're not wrong?

Refer to:

There is no ultimate authority who determines what genre a band falls in.

Retardedness is underrated.

And ignorance is bliss?

 

[Cythraul]

I don't have to explain anything to you...

What the fuck is this shit? What are you 12 years old or something? The purpose of getting you to state your reasoning is so the discussion can go somewhere. You did, after all, challenge my claim so I thought I'd give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you had something more to say than "Sam Dunn says so, durrrr."

so if I say Static-X belongs in the Industrial Metal genre...you'll just give me some random fucking paragraph saying there not Metal...

That's irrelevant.

then explain to me what is Metal...if your so fucking knowlegdeable on the subject

Come on im waiting

You're just being evasive. You obviously don't want to have any kind of a discussion nor do you even care about showing your points to be sound so why the fuck should I bother with your puerile fucking crap any longer?

 

[Cythraul]

Yes, grunge is a combination of metal and rock with dark overtones.

The fact that grunge may have a smattering of metal influence is rather inconsequential. You may as well say I'm a jazz guitarist because I like to play 7th chords and do modulations.

 

[Ender Rises]

Jazz influenced metal. Alot. That was a dumb point.

 

[Cythraul]

Now, I've only been listening to metal for four or five years, and I don't study music, but I know enough to be sure that anal, self-righteous pricks like Cythraul are worth about as much as their trivial arguments over genre definitions.

You're worthless, but I'm sure you're patting yourself on the back for your clever little jab-from-the-sidelines there. Frankly, I'd rather be a self-righteous prick than one of your ilk.

There is no ultimate authority who determines what genre a band falls in.

Even if there is no "ultimate authority" it certainly doesn't preclude one from making a sound judgment as to whether a certain category of music falls under a certain broader category.

edit: in fact, I don't even see how your "ultimate authority" point is supposed to be relevant much less apply to this case.

 

[Cythraul]

Jazz influenced metal. Alot. That was a dumb point.

What? What are you talking about? Did you even understand my point?

 

[Demilich]

I certainly agree that we should all be able to make judgements regarding categories of music and whatever. My "ultimate authority" point was to underline your tired, solipsistic, hardheaded bullshit "I'm right you're wrong" attitude which has been repeatedly pointed out by numerous forumers who regard you as an utterly aggravating and rarely conductive poster.

As for your defamatory nonsense, you don't know shit about me, and I assure you that if I'm not worthless in any meaningful sense of the word. Worthless to some jackoff who talks big on metal forums? Fine with me.

edit: the R on this keyboard doesn't work very well

 

[Ender Rises]

What? What are you talking about? Did you even understand my point?

I understood it, I just replied the wrong way. Point is: I think it is metal, you don't, and honestly I don't give a flying monkey ass fuck what you think. And that was still a dumb point.

 

[anonymouswierdo]

How abouts we just say that grunge is a metal influenced sub-genre of rock? How influenced it has been by metal can be dropped for now.


Reasons for it to fall under 'rock' (I'm pretty much just making thse up as I go along, I don't really know much about grunge):

*Grew out of rock

*Widely thought of as a form of rock

*meh, I can't be bothered with this anymore.

 

[Cythraul]

My "ultimate authority" point was to underline your tired, solipsistic, hardheaded bullshit "I'm right you're wrong" attitude which has been repeatedly pointed out by numerous forumers who regard you as an utterly aggravating and rarely conductive poster.

Tired, solipsistic, hardheadedness aside, it's certainly not my fault that people find a demand for justification beyond questionable appeals to authority aggravating.

As for your defamatory nonsense, you don't know shit about me, and I assure you that if I'm not worthless in any meaningful sense of the word. Worthless to some jackoff who talks big on metal forums? Fine with me.

Fine. I hope you continue to enjoy posting irrelevant ad hominems instead of engaging me on the actual topic of discussion at hand.

 

[Cythraul]

I understood it, I just replied the wrong way. Point is: I think it is metal, you don't, and honestly I don't give a flying monkey ass fuck what you think.

great point, well-taken.

And that was still a dumb point.

Care to explain why?

 

[Saparmurat_Niyazov]

This point of this entire argument is moot, because it was my intent to make a thread strictly about non-metal (rock or otherwise) bands that have composed heavy metal songs. Everyone here knows damn well what a metal song is when they hear it, just because a band that is borderline wrote the song is completely off topic. I'm not a "stay on topic" Nazi, but the old, tiresome "this band is metal and that one is not" argument really isn't appropriate in this thread.

 

[SweptbackFlame]

Fine. I hope you continue to enjoy posting irrelevant ad hominems instead of engaging me on the actual topic of discussion at hand.

See you say our posts are useless, all you do is quote each fucking post everyone has said what they wanted to say and you can't accept that. Instead of continuing the argument you just make as useless posts as I did, So why don't you shove a donkey's dick up your ass maybe It'll give you a sense of exactly what the fuck Im saying

And on the subject

I don't know any Metal Songs by Non-Metal bands because quite frankly I don't listen to any

 

[cookiecutter]

rep to Cythraul for arguing like you are supposed to on a forum. He made a point and supported it instead of saying "don't disagree with me" or "let's all be friends and agree".

As for the topic at hand a song that comes to mind for me is Jethro Tull's "Locomotive Breath"

 

[standablaze]

Heh, i don't really know any non metal bands covering metal songs, but i know a shite example of a classic song title being jerked over by a wanker band. Incubus - Wish You Were Here as opposed to Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here. Me and a friend at work always call Incubus cunts for this blasphemy.

Anyways....