By new I mean something that sounds different in thrash. I mean I hear too much of the same and it gets repetitive, I mean sure you can djent, that doesn't mean I'm going to like it. Me personally I'd like to see some jazz/fusion elements in thrash, or hear some elements of power metal within it, and even a little prog metal influence in there to which has been done on occasion.Maybe he expects something relatively new like 'djent'. Lol.
By new I mean something that sounds different in thrash. I mean I hear too much of the same and it gets repetitive, I mean sure you can djent, that doesn't mean I'm going to like it. Me personally I'd like to see some jazz/fusion elements in thrash, or hear some elements of power metal within it, and even a little prog metal influence in there to which has been done on occasion.
Yeah I've listened to it. The bands are good no lie about that, it's just I don't see too many of the modern thrash bands taking notes on some of this style and other styles in regards and it just feels like they're trying to relive a bygone era that kinda went away for a reason. I don't mind people doing thrash metal, I just like to hear some kind of evolution and adapting new skills to it. I thought Slayer's Seasons in the Abyss was the best album they wrote since Reign in Blood, hell I think it is better than Reign in Blood. Same thing with Megadeth's Rust in Peace and Youthanasia. I thought it showed they can do more with that formula instead of just be fast and brutal. Overkill tends to be different as well.Have you listened to much prog or tech thrash? How about jazz death metal?
went away for a reason.
That's been done already, not new.
It went away because standard thrash was more of a middle passage towards death metal developing into a proper genre.
There are newer examples of music using classical song structures and composition anyway, and I'm not only referring to music that is a hybrid of classical elements and other genres. It isn't a totally dead musical movement by any means
It could have been new to him
Thrash is a proper subgenre, as is death metal.
A genre going away doesn't invalidate it as a genre. Unless you want to say classical era music is also not a genre.
the same can be said of thrash, so thx for elaborating on my point for me
You said this in a way that comes across as somewhat passive-aggressive even though I wasn't disagreeing with you at all and actually agree with your post 100%.
Okay.
I didn't say it wasn't a proper subgenre. The fact is, in thrash, death and black metal there's generally an emphasis on extremity. This lead to a rather large genre like thrash metal mostly evolving into death metal or black metal, either by bands changing style or by bands splitting up with members going off to form more extreme bands.
That's all I meant.
I mean thrash is also kind of an umbrella term with all of its subsubgenres, you could realistically argue that death and black are subgenres of thrash. Depending on the type of black metal though
It went away because standard thrash was more of a middle passage towards death metal developing into a proper genre.
I didn't say it wasn't a proper subgenre. The fact is, in thrash, death and black metal there's generally an emphasis on extremity. This lead to a rather large genre like thrash metal mostly evolving into death metal or black metal, either by bands changing style or by bands splitting up with members going off to form more extreme bands.
That's all I meant.
You would be wrong, because thrash is a paraphyletic group.
This is such a shit meme. By this logic, OSDM went away because it was a middle passage towards death metal developing into a proper genre.
I see it everywhere. Tons of death metal or black metal musicians that were first in thrash metal bands. You brought up Autopsy, well Reifert was in Burnt Offerings before Death and Autopsy.
Just one example. I didn't just say that thrash metal bands changed styles, I also said thrash metal musicians also changed the bands they wanted to play in.