More on that spooky Evil Darkness Tour (I can't help myself)

[adaher]

I just don't get the arenas thing. All right, if I had unlimited funds and didn't want to mess around with crappy looking and sounding clubs, I'd do a theater tour. You figure 1000-5000 seaters, good sound, good ambience, and if you promote it right, you might not totally lose your ass. I'd also have fewer bands.

 

[Wheezer]

Since when does Bill Gates think he can run a metal festival, well maybe it's not gates but it has to be someone just as rich

I think it's more likely it's someone that made his money from a Nigerian email scam.

 

[Beholder]

My crew has to be laughing their ass off.

That, and sick to the stomach....Delusions of Gradeur is an understatement. There is a snowball's chance in hell that this happens. But to be honest, with his holier than though attitude from what I have seen on his forum, I kind of want this to happen. Just so I can see the tour end after 2 shows. Then he'll never be in the business again...

What an absolute joke. Glenn, please tell Kamelot to stay as far away from this tour as possible..

Shane

 

[YtseJammer]

Aside from the ludicrous set changes and amount of bands, there is only one way this thing can POSSIBY be pulled off.

Maiden will headline and put 10,000 in the seats at every arena.

 

[Yngvai X]

Hey, I allready made the Waynes World reference.

Oops, thats what I get for not reading the entire thread before posting

 

[ReaLM]

Thanks for the feedback. I didn't post anything to their board and do not plan on doing so.

It is nice to hear that that you don't think it will hurt the genre. I just hope that no bands (esp. ones that I like ) loose money or get turned off to playing the states in the future.

Reguardless it will be interesting to watch how this thing develops...

Robin

Glen, have you tried to talk to these lunatics?

Absolutely not. It is not my place to infringe on another promoter directly just because I disagree with his business decisions and think he is out of his fucking mind.

More than anything I would hate for them to try this and then fail. I think it will hurt the chances for all prog/power metal tours to come to the US in the future because record companies and bands will see this flop and equate it will the US being untourable. I think they will set prog/power metal back in the US about 5 years at least.

I disagree. We are not talking Clear Channel to begin with. Record labels that support their bands now will continue to do so (and that is not many). One failed tour will not effect underground touring the way it is done now. You just won't see any insane arena tours in the future.

Right now it seems like they are probably bluffing and that it will never happen (hopefully). However, if it does seem like it is going to be attempted, someone(us?,Glen?) should try to stop it (legally of course).

Once again, you should leave it alone.

I'm thinking of posting a link to this thread on their message board.

I would appreciate that you did not do that. Feel free to post your own thoughts on the board, but do not make this a community war so to speak.


Glenn H.

 

[Yippee38]

Aside from the ludicrous set changes and amount of bands, there is only one way this thing can POSSIBY be pulled off.

Maiden will headline and put 10,000 in the seats at every arena.

Do you really think Maiden could draw 10,000 people in any city in the U.S. today? I don't. Kids don't go to concerts like they used to, and the adults who used to have "grown out of metal".

 

[BenMech]

This tours scares me and excites me.

It scares me that some promoter has the chutzpah to think this is viable (unless he's doing a Springtime For Hitler kinda deal)

It excites me in much the same way Raggi above was thinking

 

[Demonspell]

The whole concept for this massive clusterfuck of a tour has me laughing my ass off...a pinnacle of absurdity that makes Koshick look like a marketing genius in comparison...

 

[Petethedrummer]

I doubt Maiden wants to play here again after that Ozzfest incident

 

[aztattooedsean]

When I first saw the initial notices about this tour, I thought it had to be some sort of April Fool's joke. Leaves Eyes???? Until a month ago, I'd never even heard of them. Glenn thinks they could draw 20 people in Atlanta?? I'll bet they'd draw about 5 in Phoenix. Even if they get the headliners they want, I see 300-400 MAX here in Phoenix. And they're listing a 14000 seat arena as the venue.

The first thing that comes to mind: how could any band take this seriously? The bands and their management would certainly see what an amateurish clusterf*** this is?

Oh you haven't taken in account the awesome rock station KUPD putting it's promotion behind it(turns off my sarcasm meter as KUPD sucks! )

I agree that I really expect someone to come out from behind a tree and say he has punk'd us all when it comes to this so called fest.

 

[Chrisf]

I'm pretty sure this is just a hoax... one designed to promote the bands that are listed so far.

I mean, really, think about it. If you decide to check out these bands, cause maybe enough people compare them to someone you do know (like Nightwish), Mission Accomplished. Kamelot will probably never be "confirmed", that's just part of the ruse.

I'm sure the whole thing will fall apart as time goes on... tickets, which are supposed to go on sale this winter will slowly be pushed back... then venues will slowly be unconfirmed... then eventually, the whole thing will eventually disappear a year from now. But the promoter (who deserves credit for the Blair Witch Project -type marketing) will never admit to it.

I don't actually expect it to even succeed on that level, but... it's original, I guess.

 

[Pellaz]

I'm pretty sure this is just a hoax... one designed to promote the bands that are listed so far.

I mean, really, think about it. If you decide to check out these bands, cause maybe enough people compare them to someone you do know (like Nightwish), Mission Accomplished. Kamelot will probably never be "confirmed", that's just part of the ruse.

I'm sure the whole thing will fall apart as time goes on... tickets, which are supposed to go on sale this winter will slowly be pushed back... then venues will slowly be unconfirmed... then eventually, the whole thing will eventually disappear a year from now. But the promoter (who deserves credit for the Blair Witch Project -type marketing) will never admit to it.

I've talked to the guy who's doing it in person (back at Dragon*Con) and also in email. He seems sincere, that this is a real tour being planned as stated.

That being said, I truly hope that reality will eventually set in and the tour is appropriately down-scaled. I'd love to see something like this in smaller venues, with a reasonable band-list, reasonable ticket-prices, etc.

 

[Diabolik]

I saw Leave's Eyes on saturday here in Chicago and the EvilDarkness street team was there handing out flyers already. I talked to the bass player about the tour and he had no clue about the size of the venues that were being booked. He seemed very concerned about the amount of money that would be lost, he even knew that they are not a huge drawing band here in the states. I guess this will be fun to watch for the next year.

 

[Mxgonzo]

I saw Leave's Eyes on saturday here in Chicago and the EvilDarkness street team was there handing out flyers already. I talked to the bass player about the tour and he had no clue about the size of the venues that were being booked. He seemed very concerned about the amount of money that would be lost, he even knew that they are not a huge drawing band here in the states. I guess this will be fun to watch for the next year.

Where did they play?

 

[manowarfan1]

Setting up a street team and planning things far in advance, then using the email addresses to let people know about releases or gigs done by any of these bands. Also, it could help them guage true interest in a tour by seeing how many pwople would actually volunteer to do some promoting for them, these people are likely attendees when they actually come to town. This way they can play clubs or theatres and get more than they plan on by having the street teams still do some promotion?

It's a thought - or a conspiracy theory
manowarfan1

 

[EvilGrit]

Here's a couple of things to run by everybody:
On the first Family Values Tour (I had to go to see Rammstein) they had a revolving stage so change over between bands was quick. A 10 or 20 minute change over between bands would be possible.
Although I doubt this myself what if we are really looking at next years Ozzfest? Several sites posted news that it might be indoors next year because of Ozzys throat problems.
I do agree that venues are way off but I would like to see these bands.

 

[sh0kr0k]

I'm torn... I would love to put up some of the banners to help drum
up some support for the tour, but I also don't want to deal with people
telling me how this is crazy and unrealistic.

Apparently any heavy band with a chick in it is "Dark Metal" uke:

 

[Yippee38]

Apparently any heavy band with a chick in it is "Dark Metal"

Or "goth metal" - - - ?

 

[Ruthven]

Or "goth metal" - - - ?

Yeah, I agree with both you and Tammy as far as wondering why these bands are considered dark or goth merely because of a female vocalist. Of course you know the misuse of the term "goth" is one of my pet peeves. I like some of those female fronted metal bands, and while some of that music might be considered "gothic," I've never understood why it gets labelled "goth." Female goth and death rock vocalists like Monica Richards, Dinah Cancer, and Tina Root sound nothing like any of those quasi-operatic metal vocalists.