Music and your imagination

[Stormwatch]

Yeah, but isn't that the point? Every piece of music affects (or doesnt affect) people in different ways.

Well, yes. But, honestly I don't see, or look, for these hidden things in music. I hear a song and like it or not. If I like it I may look closer at the imagery behind it - I never see much beyond that.
I'm not saying you're a liar or that your opinion is less valid than mine - it's just different.
Some people look at abstract art and see amazing things. I look at abstract art and see a piece of shit, made by some dick that can't be arsed painting a real picture.
I believe most music fans are like me, but don't like to admit it.

 

[Jesse Pohjalainen]

don't forget the AT-ATs

EDIT: I wasted my 666th post on AT-ATs

ain't that how it always goes?

i was going to say to you on another topic that you're 666th post is coming up, but i thought that it would be a stupid post.....almost as stupid as this.

 

[Carcassian]

Chill out, it's fair enough! At the same time there are plenty of songs in which I just hear fist pumping metal, and nothing beyond that. I guess its always been like that so far for Stormwatch.

Stormwatch knows that was meant in a friendly way.

We converse on the Anthrax board.

Should have added an emoti thus:

Sorry!

 

[Mort Divine]

I think that for a band to inspire me to see imagry induced by the songs , I have to be emotionally connected to the band, and I have really only been connected to a band like that twice in all the years I've listened to music, however there are a few individual songs that make that connection as well. I mean, I can imagine what the song would sound like visually but very little actually inspires my mind to produce an image that is totally self-made.

The one band that is capable of doing this with me now is Pain of Salvation,I will use the album The Perfect Element as the main example.

Through this album I have literally felt the pain of the "children" this album is based around, I've felt their cuts, I've felt the bruises and the beatings, and often times when listening to it I will begin to cry, because I realize how bad the two have it.

I will feel the pain of their pasts and their regrets, be it for not speaking out when they should have, or letting something go on while knowing it was wrong, and I can make real life connections on this behalf but ... -_- I won't get into that.

I can almost fathom the boy having his face smashed into the sidewalk and then later doing the same to someone.

The entire album, just gives off this cerebral but heartfelt, ethereal but down to earth, painful but hopefulexperience that all in all, when listened to whilst just laying back, I can see the events of the music taking place.

One song from a band that isn't Pain of Salvation that I get a very powerful image in my mind from is Burzum - Han Som Reiste. I just see Odin marching along a barren ice-covered path leading him to what he knows, is a tragic fight for the existance of the world, one he knows he can not win, but that he still will fight with honor and passion.

 

[Stormwatch]

Aye I understand what Carc is sayin'. But to be fair, I find YOUR post HOM quite patronising! Listen mate, my favourite band is Jethro Tull.
http://www.ministry-of-information.co.uk/ There's an entire site devoted to ONE of their albums.
I appreciate good lyrics. I just don't see anything as deep as that in metal. And I don't look for it either.
Er...if everyone liked Jethro Tull the world would be full of people in green cords.

 

[unknown]

Everytime I listen to Primordial's The Gathering Wilderness I picture a setting very similar to the cover art...very bleak and windswept...perhaps after a battle has ravaged a town or something.

Agalloch's cds usually conjure images of forests and all the nonsense that goes with that

 

[Carcassian]

Everytime I listen to Primordial's The Gathering Wilderness I picture a setting very similar to the cover art...very bleak and windswept...perhaps after a battle has ravaged a town or something.

Agalloch's cds usually conjure images of forests and all the nonsense that goes with that

With that album, I get the last few people on earth after some sort of huge disaster just waiting for nature to finish them off. They know there are too few of them to survive, and time is going to finish them off - the wilderness waits at the edge of their camp, waiting for them to be weak enough to finally snuff them out.

 

[Hammer of Might]

Patronising? Why? I wasn't saying that you're a more thoughtful or attentive fan if you connect things in your mind, I just said it varies from person to person!

 

[Stormwatch]

Everytime I listen to Primordial's The Gathering Wilderness I picture a setting very similar to the cover art...

Any reason why? Like maybe, the cover art?

 

[Carcassian]

Patronising? Why? I wasn't saying that you're a more thoughtful or attentive fan if you connect things in your mind, I just said it varies from person to person!

Yeah, there you go again you patronising cunt.

Shut it!

 

[Mort Divine]

Agalloch's cds usually conjure images of forests and all the nonsense that goes with that

Okay, >_> I totally forgot about Agalloch. Totally. They can literally send me away to the depths of an endless forest, where I will wander til the end of time searching for the meaning of my frail existance.

 

[Carcassian]

Okay, >_> I totally forgot about Agalloch. Totally. They can literally send me away to the depths of an endless forest, where I will wander til the end of time searching for the meaning of my frail existance.[/QUOTE]

Is it to evangelise the worth of Pain of Salvation, perchance?

 

[Stormwatch]

Patronising? Why? I wasn't saying that you're a more thoughtful or attentive fan if you connect things in your mind, I just said it varies from person to person!

Well, you says (I know that's not grammatically correct Demiurge) : "I just hear fist pumping metal, and nothing beyond that. I guess its always been like that so far for Stormwatch."

That's kinda patronising. I've been listening to metal for 16 years or so. Look at the lyrics to "Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day". I've cried to these lyrics - I can see merit in this. Are they about Jesus? Are they about Ian Anderson? I simply don't see quite the same merit in any metal lyrics. But then I think Ian Anderson is a total genius.



Meanwhile back in the Year One - when you belonged to no-one -
You didn't stand a chance son, if your pants were undone.
'Cause you were bred for Humanity and sold to Society -
One day you'll wake up in the Present Day -
A million generations removed from expectations
Of being who you really want to be.

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

So as you push off from the shore, won't you turn your head once more -
And make your peace with everyone?
For those who choose to stay, will live just one more day -
To do the things they should have done.
And as you cross the wilderness, spinning in your emptiness:
You feel you have to pray.
Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind
Has written you into the Passion Play.

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

And as you cross the Circle Line, well, the ice-wall creaks behind -
You're a rabbit on the run.

And the silver splinters fly in the corner of your eye -
Shining in the setting sun.
Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real and in
the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage, and it seems like
You're the only person sitting in the audience?

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away!

 

[Carcassian]

Well, you says (I know that's not grammatically correct Demiurge) : "I just hear fist pumping metal, and nothing beyond that. I guess its always been like that so far for Stormwatch."

That's kinda patronising. Look at the lyrics to "Skating Away On The Thin Ice Of A New Day". I've cried to these lyrics - I can see merit in this. I simply don't see quite the same merit in any metal lyrics. But then I think Ian Anderson is a total genius.



Meanwhile back in the Year One - when you belonged to no-one -
You didn't stand a chance son, if your pants were undone.
'Cause you were bred for Humanity and sold to Society -
One day you'll wake up in the Present Day -
A million generations removed from expectations
Of being who you really want to be.

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

So as you push off from the shore, won't you turn your head once more -
And make your peace with everyone?
For those who choose to stay, will live just one more day -
To do the things they should have done.
And as you cross the wilderness, spinning in your emptiness:
You feel you have to pray.
Looking for a sign that the Universal Mind
Has written you into the Passion Play.

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

And as you cross the Circle Line, well, the ice-wall creaks behind -
You're a rabbit on the run.

And the silver splinters fly in the corner of your eye -
Shining in the setting sun.
Well, do you ever get the feeling that the Story's too damn real and in
the present tense?
Or that everybody's on the stage, and it seems like
You're the only person sitting in the audience?

Skating Away-ay! Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay on the Thin Ice of the New Day-ay-ay-ay-ay.
Ay-ay-ay-ay!

Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away-ay!
Skating Away!

Is that about Ice Skating? It brings to mind vivid images of Torville and Dean...

 

[Stormwatch]

Is that about Ice Skating? It brings to mind vivid images of Torville and Dean...

I suppose it is. In a metaphorical sense. If I played it now Ian Anderson's beautiful delivery would make me cry like a big fucking baby.

 

[Mort Divine]

Okay, >_> I totally forgot about Agalloch. Totally. They can literally send me away to the depths of an endless forest, where I will wander til the end of time searching for the meaning of my frail existance.[/QUOTE]

Is it to evangelise the worth of Pain of Salvation, perchance?

Would I be searching for the meaning of my existance if there were the meaning of it?

If it were I would have stopped searching in November of 2004, when I first came across BE.

 

[Stormwatch]

A song about the evils of musical fame? I can deal with this, these are great lyrics!

Only Solitaire

"Brain-storming habit-forming battle-warning weary winsome actor spewing
spineless chilling lines-
Critics falling over to tell themselves he's boring and really not an awful
lot of fun.
Well, who the hell can he be when he's never had V.D., and he doesn't even
sit on toilet seats?
Court-jesting, never-resting - he must be very cunning to assume an air of
dignity and
Bless us all with his oratory prowess; his lame-brained antics and his
jumping in the air.
And every night his act's the same and so it must be all a game of chess
he's playing -
"But you're wrong Steve: you see, it's."

Only Solitaire

 

[Carcassian]

Would I be searching for the meaning of my existance if there were the meaning of it?

If it were I would have stopped searching in November of 2004, when I first came across BE.

I was joshing you big ape. You know I love you. You still don't get my sense of humour do you?

 

[Mort Divine]

I was joshing you big ape. You know I love you. You still don't get my sense of humour do you?

Oh I get the humor, I was just giving my own smart ass answer =P

 

[Hammer of Might]

"I guess its always been like that so far for Stormwatch."

That's kinda patronising.

Point taken, that was badly worded on my part, and it wasn't meant that way. This threads just for people to say whether or not they have any particular songs that have an imaginary effect, not saying its better or worse