Music: The Most Intellectually Demanding Artform?

Laeth MacLaurie

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The question of why music seems to require more effort to appreciate (phrased "get into") than any other artform recently came up on another forum I post to. The question was an interesting one, I thought, and it seems to me that the answer is that music is the most intellectually demanding artform.

Music is the most abstract form of artistic expression, and thus, the most ambiguous. Visual media -- film, painting, sculpure, photography etc. -- usually ultilize some sort of directly representational expressive technique. That is, visual expression corresponds to the "real world" without being mediated through language. As a result, visual media require less effort on the part of the audience to decode.

Literature and music, on the other hand, have no direct correspondence to the real world. They must be mediated by language, requiring at least one extra layer of symbolic expression that must be decoded before an audience can apprehend the artistic content (much less comprehend it). Because a large measure of collective consensus exists regarding meaning within formal languages, literary works operate within a framework that is relatively well understood and largely codified. Even if some writers occasionally "play" with the value and meaning of words, English remains English , Spanish, Spanish, Urdu, Urdu, regardless of the work or author.

Music exists in a far less symbolically formalized environment. Ideally, each composer and artist develops his or her own unique musical language or dialect. As a result, music is the most purely structuralist of all formats; ideas are encoded within a unique language or idiom that can only be interpreted through the relationships between expressive structures internal to the work itself. In a sense, music is a language (really, languages) that consists entirely of neologisms. While this means music can "speak" with far more spiritual precision than other media, it also buries content within many layers of ambiguity, and thus requires maximum effort on the part of would-be interpreters.
 
Devy_Metal said:
If someone disagrees with anything you say in this post are you going to cry, bitch and moan like you do in all your others?

I never cry, bitch OR moan, faggot. I merely correct the errors of fools and Jews.
 
Laeth MacLaurie said:
I never cry, bitch OR moan, faggot. I merely correct the errors of fools and Jews.

Ah, anti-semitism, the hall mark of the Intellectual power house.

I actually found your first post quite interesting too, which is a pity, as your second post has revealed you to be an asshole.
 
Carcassian said:
Ah, anti-semitism, the hall mark of the Intellectual power house.

Almost all the great philosophers were raging anti-semites, kike. Intelligence and anti-semitism are closely correlated.
 
Laeth MacLaurie said:
Almost all the great philosophers were raging anti-semites, kike. Intelligence and anti-semitism are closely correlated.

I must have missed that study.

As for the insult, I'm honoured. Kike is a trifle more inventive than faggot, at least.

It is, however, inaccurate. Still, why let the facts get in the way of some good old fashioned racial hatred ?

I don't want to keep you. You've probably got some books to burn before mommy comes home.
 
Carcassian said:
I must have missed that study.

It's obvious even from a cursory study of philosophy. The ideas of the great philosophers are opposed to the ideas of the Jew, in this, philosophy itself is fundamentally anti-semitic. Now get out of my thread, Jewboy.
 
Laeth MacLaurie said:
It's obvious even from a cursory study of philosophy. The ideas of the great philosophers are opposed to the ideas of the Jew, in this, philosophy itself is fundamentally anti-semitic. Now get out of my thread, Jewboy.


In order:

If that's the way you choose to view things, fine. I don't agree.
No, I won't.
I'm not Jewish; which makes the insult jewboy all the more amusing
 
Carcassian said:
In order:

If that's the way you choose to view things, fine. I don't agree.

Truth isn't a matter of consensus. You are simply wrong

I'm not Jewish; which makes the insult jewboy all the more amusing

A Jew-in-Spirit is still a fucking Jew. Now quit cluttering my thread, hymie.
 
Laeth MacLaurie said:
a)Truth isn't a matter of consensus. You are simply wrong



b) A Jew-in-Spirit is still a fucking Jew. Now quit cluttering my thread, hymie.

a) Your opinion. I hold the contrary.

b) I am a Jew spirit how ?
 
I am now dumber for reading this to its entirety.
As for the original question, drawing does not take much other than actual individual talent, whereas music is knowledge able to be acquired. Most other art forms for that matter deal with personal ability, so I’d say yes, music is the most intellectually demanding art form because it can be taught and improved on through theory and passed facts. Unlike drawing for instance, you either have a natural knack for it, or not.
 
Actually that's pretty insightful. However, most of the time when people analyze music conceptually they don't explain what the message has to do with the actual sound (for example, you could obviously say a band influenced by folk music has nationalist leanings, but when the message is more abstract it's not always clear - how exactly, aesthetically, is the 'suspension of time' or whatever set to Burzum's music?)