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Naggamanteh said:
I think the growing disregard for the environment, culture and heritage is a natural consequence of capitalism. When people care more about profit than the world they live in that is what happens.

This will be an even bigger catastrophe to the environment the moment China and India become wealthy, because our planet cannot take another 2.4 billion capitalist pigs driving polluting cars and buying essentially meaningless consumer goods all day long, seven days a week. We have problems enough with the I billion capitalist pigs we already have (mainly in the USA, Europe and Japan). And what will happen when the world population reaches 9 or even 10 billion and the majority are capitalist consumers?

The communists used to blame capitalism for polluted environment but it were the communists countries who had much higher pollution levels as a result of several factors. It is no coincidence that the level of pollution is lower in market economies, but that is an aside. I don't find this topic very exciting so I won't go into details, but if you are interested, try Schleifer and Vishny's book The Grabbing Hand, it marginally touches the topic of pollution as well (the books contains some math but is an inetresting read even for people with non-mathematical background).
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I'm absolutely sure that what you're saying is true, but Varg isn't even close to arguing communism as a solution here, he's merely stating what is pretty much common knowledge -- the Western, capitalist world pollutes the Earth and uses its resources to the point where it can't really sustain many more people living this way. That he chooses to use phrases like "capitalist pigs" is another thing, but hardly something that is only a part of "communist" rhetoric -- you will find the same thing is rampant in NS circles.

Naggamanteh said:
And what's this 'people care more about profit than the world they live in' malarkey? No shit? Of course they do, people are selfish. Even the vikings used to plunder. Sentences like this look like extracts from Marxist or communist textbooks.

Today the USA is the main problem in this context, because the USA is doing just like the culture of Carthage did. The USA too conquer by trade. The whole world is flooded in American consumer products. The Coca-Cola company, McDonald's, Levi-Strauss, Microsoft, the Hollywood "entertainment" (id est propaganda) industry, and so forth, are destroying all cultures on planet Earth, and are trying to replace it with the American lack of culture. This "cultural" imperialism is of course linked to capitalism, and the American companies' wish to earn money - with no regards to the consequences whatsoever. They don't do this because they are "evil", but simply because they are extremely greedy and unable to think far ahead.

This is like THE communist propaganda (although his incentives are very likely different). You seriously didn't spot it? Then again, you probably weren't born in a communist country and cannot know that. Please accept my sincere apologies if you thought I was a bit harsh in my previous post, but some things really do get on my tits.
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Again... It might be true that to some extent he is agreeing with communism as far as what the problems of Western society are, but you can be damn sure that his opinion differs when it comes to what to actually do about it, and that's why Varg is not a communist... It's like two people arguing over whether to use glue or tape to fix something broken: same problem, different solutions (shit analogy)

But to be fair, you were only arguing that he sounds like a communist with some of the things he says, not that he actually WAS one, and I guess someone who read quotes like the ones you pasted and didn't know beforehand about Varg's ideas could get that impression. I also didn't exactly need to be that harsh ;)
 
Not being bound by the allure of sexual promiscuity is a sure sign of strength of character and, therefore, is kvlt.
 
Being against capitalism doesn't make you a communist. :err:

Otherwise 75% of the people on this board would probably be considered communists.
 
Majesty said:
I think he meant it as a sign of strength of character to wait for sex
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It doesn't change the fact that it's contradictory to claim that Christianity is the cause for the downfall of mankind while at the same time condoning one of the most overemphasized Christian viewpoints.
 
I don't recall him saying that every facet of Christianity was entirely worthless and should be condemned. In fact, he emphasized the fact that Christianity adopted many things from many religions and beliefs.
 
I found this bit

"After a few months with a synthesizer in the cell in 1998, I had to choose between my synthesizer and my laptop computer, because the prison authorities didn't let me have both at the same time (for "security reasons"), and I chose to have the computer in the cell, believing I could make music anyhow, by using some music program. But the prison authority had other ideas, claiming I didn't have an "extraordinary need" to have a music program enabling me to make music on the computer. So without a music program I couldn't make any more music from then on. That is actually the main reason I haven't released any records since 1999; to install a music program I need a CD-ROM, and all CDs are banned in this prison (for "security reasons")."

particularly amusing.
 
When was the last time any of you released a series of albums that defined the core of black metal and continue to stand as testaments to the genre as a true artform? When was the last time any of you were pro-active on your beliefs?

just sayin'
 
I'm not sure what you're saying. Are you saying that we're not worthy of discussing Varg's interview due to his vast superiority over us?
 
Astral Poetry said:
When was the last time any of you released a series of albums that defined the core of black metal and continue to stand as testaments to the genre as a true artform? When was the last time any of you were pro-active on your beliefs?
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I'd like to see him walk into an urban amercian neiborhood and express his stupid fucking beliefs. In fact, I'd like to see him walk into REALITY, and express his idiotic beliefs.

And yes, the music he made was good (mesmerizing and absorbing), but artfags like you make me want to hate it.
 
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